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Marc Andreessen Is a Maniac

109 点作者 jweir大约 1 年前

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cjensen大约 1 年前
Sometimes a person is in the right place at the right time and has an opportunity to become rich. It's important to resist the human urge to account success as a product of one's own intelligence.
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neilv大约 1 年前
Seems buried on HN. It was at least rank 10 with some comments, but then I couldn&#x27;t find the post in the first 20 pages of HN (up to rank 600).<p><pre><code> Marc Andreessen Is a Maniac (gizmodo.com) 80 points by jweir 1 hour ago | unvote | flag | hide | past | favorite | 41 comments</code></pre>
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yashg大约 1 年前
&gt;&gt;It&#x27;s never been clearer that the VC founder&#x27;s whole outlook on life revolves around how great it is to be rich and how shameful it is to be anything else.<p>Quite a few &quot;successful&quot; founders who invariably also turn angels&#x2F;VCs seem to share this idea. If you aren&#x27;t hustling and getting rich then that&#x27;s a life wasted.
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spamizbad大约 1 年前
In my view, Andreessen has always been more on the &quot;hawkish&quot; side - going back to 2016. He supported Clinton over Trump when it looked like Trump was going to be more Dove-ish on US foreign policy (ultimately he wasn&#x27;t, but that was the general view during that era).<p>Just speaking as an American, my biggest fear with SV getting involved in the defense sector is that founders and VCs tend to be very opinionated about how their products actually get used, and I&#x27;d be worried they rug-pull key defense technologies away from the US military should be applied in a manner contrary to their interests. Maybe those interests align with mine, maybe they don&#x27;t, but I can hold my electeds accountable: I can&#x27;t do that with Andreessen or his &quot;Gundo Bros&quot;
22yards大约 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;k7bbd9&#x2F;billionaire-marc-its-time-to-build-andreesen-is-a-nimby" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;k7bbd9&#x2F;billionaire-marc-its-...</a><p>Here is another example of this behaviour - its fine as long as it does not affect me.
fwlr大约 1 年前
Quotes like “I’m glad there’s OxyContin and video games to keep [rural Americans] docile” are really bad… so it’s quite the achievement for the words <i>outside</i> the quotes to be even worse.<p>Every other sentence by the author feels like it’s practically bursting at the seams with spite, barely containing the writer’s apoplectic rage. A very off-putting read.
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daft_pink大约 1 年前
You either die a hero or live to become a villain.
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neilv大约 1 年前
This is always personally kind of curious to me, because, at the same time Andreessen was the young &quot;hayseed with the know-how&quot; (as I think JWZ once called him) working on NCSA Mosaic and then mcom&#x2F;Netscape... I was also a (slightly younger) Internet-savvy Unix workstations programmer, working in a science park out in Oregon farm country.<p>My own awareness and leanings were more towards traditional Internet altruistic&#x2F;egalitarian, with a healthy skepticism of government and business in practice, and keeping an eye out against exploiters.<p>(Separately, a more libertarian school of thought was also represented among the early Internet-savvy, but I had less exposure to that.)<p>Sometimes I wonder what would&#x27;ve happened to the modern Web and tech industry, if certain formative figures in dotcoms had been of the more traditional altruistic&#x2F;egalitarian Internet kind.<p>But maybe they wouldn&#x27;t have been able to get that influence, given their mindset and motivations.<p>Maybe big money would&#x27;ve bought and colluded their way to shaping the Internet how they wanted, in any case.<p>Certainly, a bit into dotcoms, the Google founders sounded to me like &quot;one of us&quot;. But I think I was also quick to assume they were, when they did some smart things, and said some things (&quot;don&#x27;t be evil&quot;) that I expected from one of us.
cbHXBY1D大约 1 年前
I only realized how far down the rabbit hole Marc was when he was one of the first interviewees for a guy who came out of the neo-Nazi Salo forum, which means he was almost certainly reading Salo forum.<p>Discussed at the time here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27343914">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27343914</a>
lr4444lr大约 1 年前
I got the sense from reading the “Techno-Optimist’s Manifesto” that it was deliberately crafted to troll.
joadha大约 1 年前
A gizmodo commenter made a good suggestion: replace &quot;maniac&quot; with &quot;psychopath.&quot;<p>I endorse this because mania is a medically recognized condition that can be managed successfully with treatment.<p>Do we have evidence that MA is bipolar or otherwise verifiably maniacal? Or is he just another unscrupulous capitalist? I think it&#x27;s the latter.<p>MA: If you&#x27;re reading this, just know that whatever trendy &quot;ism&quot; is making its rounds at the yacht club will not justify the awful, inhumane business decision you are about to make.
labrador大约 1 年前
My issue with American programmers and technologists who get rich is that it goes to their head and suddenly they think they&#x27;re an intellectual on a wide range of subjects. It happened to me but I grew out of it when I got old. Marc Andreeson is no different. Have you ever really listened to Peter Theil in an interview? He&#x27;s all over the map, saying things that sound profound but when you think about it actually make no sense at all. He&#x27;s great at some things, but he&#x27;s not great at everything. Same with Andreeson. At least he&#x27;s not as bad as Musk in this regard.
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erbdex大约 1 年前
While I am all for social justice.. i don&#x27;t think a Marc or a Zucker or Jobs should be turned into villains. A corner of my mind forgives them because of how &quot;the system&quot; rewards specialization and how little of the outside world they see.<p>Keeping away from these personality caricatures, here is why i think this topic and these conversation are important, yet difficult to have in constructive ways:<p>1. It builds over our preexisting imaginations of how the world is, what runs it fundamentally, who governs it today and how these frameworks are changing. 2. People are fundamentally biased weather we are heading towards prosperity or slowdown. 3. We can&#x27;t help adding our ideas of how the world should be - what systems should come etc. 4. Timeline of events - a truth 10 years down the road is practically a lie today. 5. Contradictory movements - as rural real estate crashes, urban might spike up and we can mostly only hold head or tail of the elephant. 6. To make the discussion simpler, one could use simpler analogies but the risk again is that complex systems don&#x27;t follow simple linear paths. 7. These are conversations about the problems of the goats and not understood so easily by lions given little incentive to understand pastureland. Yet they do eventually affect them.<p>There are fundamentals to growth of every system and what weakens them will eventually simplify the system.<p>I am not as much interested in being &quot;right&quot; because that is a very naive way of looking at this. I am more interested in highlighting these trends because i fear we often build downstream of international trends (hyped areas vs fundamental changes that go unnotiticed).<p>Safer proven strategies do reduce risk but they also take away the upside of rewards. There is no replacement for ahead of the curve courage and societies, markets, time - all punish as well as reward forward thinking.<p>I see great opportunities when systems undergo large changes. As global energy economics, labour availability, localisation trends undergo fast changes, we have a real chance of riding these waves vs doing service delivery for NY and Valley. Cloud seeding was innovative till Dubai flooded. The world markets will quickly shift the narrative hanging us dry if we are not intellectually prepared for different possibilities.<p>As short term trends, i am noticing that there is a huge collapse in the middle of the economic pyramid. Without fundamental innovations in how we recalibrate our systems, only rich dog shampoo products would work and a lot of us and our people will be out of jobs and economy.Perhaps this isn&#x27;t as applicable to the audience of this group as the members are incredibly well connected and can float away to greener smaller pastures but i also see counter trends to the &quot;infinite growth for everyone, eventually&quot; narrative. There are only so many rich dogs to shampoo and this is to address the &quot;rest of us&quot; part of the problem. It is already clear in product circles that we aren&#x27;t building for our people and i feel that we can.<p>No answers here, to be honest. But an urge to highlight that these shifts are both opportunities and challenges and some of the hardest problems in the world. Having spent a few years in rural areas working on climate, i confess i have tilted my brains a little. :)<p>I have come to love the tech community, in large parts because of the sensitivity, nuance and accomodation tech bros also have here on HN. Honestly i&#x27;ve tried many times to judge the tech world but i also see enough balancing acts going on here at HN.<p>Many of us may fall, but I see great kindness and hope in Technologists to be able to inch the world towards great positivity. Few others have that agency in this tilted world, so it is also that.
jweir大约 1 年前
This story was on the front page of Hacker News – but then disappeared. Did the original poster delete it or something else happen?
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wellbehaved大约 1 年前
Blatant substance-free hit piece.
downrightmike大约 1 年前
&quot;While Andreessen may be all over the place ideologically, when you burrow down to his core beliefs they seem pretty simple. He’s a big fan of power. That is power for certain people—i.e., people like him. Rich people, in other words.&quot;<p>Tax these fuckers so they shut up
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roschdal大约 1 年前
Yes.
AbrahamParangi大约 1 年前
What is the news value of this?