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Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

222 点作者 rokkitmensch大约 1 年前

20 条评论

guerby大约 1 年前
David Unwin is a real hero, things are starting to move hopefully for diabetics<p>Recommanded readings<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;02&#x2F;bmjnph-2020-000072" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;02&#x2F;bmjnph-20...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;bmjnph-2022-000544" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;bmjnph-20...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2023&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;bmjnph-2023-000836" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nutrition.bmj.com&#x2F;content&#x2F;early&#x2F;2023&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;bmjnph-20...</a><p>Those papers are the most read papers of BMJ nutrition whole history, and this is the top journal of the field
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not2b大约 1 年前
My diabetic wife has long been horrified at the dietary recommendations coming from the ADA, they are worse than useless. I don&#x27;t blame the whistleblower for settling but it&#x27;s a shame those people won&#x27;t take consequences for actively harming people in exchange for corporate contributions. Their nonprofit status doesn&#x27;t keep them from paying the top officers fat salaries out of those donations.
user_7832大约 1 年前
&gt; In case you’re curious, the ADA and Splenda appear to be still at it. As I write this, the ADA’s Diabetes Food Hub web page still features no fewer than 203 recipes – some marked “sponsored”, some not – that include Splenda, whose parent company’s $1m contribution has brought to light the utter insanity of our diabetes epidemic.<p>If you call yourself the &quot;<i>American</i> Diabetes Association&quot;, (why) aren&#x27;t there regulations against such stuff? For eg in some countries you cannot use the name of the city&#x2F;state&#x2F;country unless you&#x27;re a government entity.
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riknos314大约 1 年前
Worth noting that the only requirements to be recognized as an Association by the IRS is that there must be a dated, written document showing its creation, signed by at least two people. [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.irs.gov&#x2F;charities-non-profits&#x2F;definition-of-an-association" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.irs.gov&#x2F;charities-non-profits&#x2F;definition-of-an-a...</a>
bhelkey大约 1 年前
From the linked study, &quot;These findings of positive associations between artificial sweetener intakes and increased T2D risk strengthen the evidence that these additives may not be safe sugar alternatives.&quot;<p>This is news to me. I was under the impression that: 1) artificial sweeteners were a safe substitute for sugar for people with diabetes and 2) diabetes came from excess sugar consumption which wasn&#x27;t a problem with artificial sweeteners.
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mustang-med大约 1 年前
My hard and fast rule in america is that everything aside from unions do not work in the interest of the people. The sooner this is taught to our kids, the better off they&#x27;ll be from being indoctrinated from the trash on instagram&#x2F;tiktok.
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gumby大约 1 年前
I was shocked by the ADA&#x27;s nutritional training (required by my insurance company) but I figured that the actuaries had decided they&#x27;d delay amputation better by encouraging people to eat a small slice of cake rather than no cake at all.
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User23大约 1 年前
The entire American medical system manages to act against the interests of both patients and doctors, the two essential classes of participants. It’s a rather remarkable achievement.
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siliconc0w大约 1 年前
Endless capture of our intuitions by entrenched incumbents.<p>I&#x27;m pretty convinced that unless you&#x27;re an athlete, everyone should be on a low carb diet (&lt;100g a day for moderately active). Our bodies aren&#x27;t equipped to deal with the speed-ball you get each meal with the standard american diet. Aside from diabetes and obesity, the is growing data on keto-diets improving psychiatric, neurological, or even cancer outcomes.
underseacables大约 1 年前
Like most associations and trade groups, they are beholden to whatever gives them money. It&#x27;s like when the Academy of nutrition and dietetics was sponsored by Pepsi and Mars.
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GiorgioG大约 1 年前
The ADA has for a very long time told diabetics to keep eating carbs. Their tune is finally changing, but no, they don&#x27;t give a shit about anyone other than themselves.
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umvi大约 1 年前
I feel like diabetes will be difficult to cure because it&#x27;s like tobacco: you need to buy expensive consumables at regular intervals (needles, cgms, insulin, etc).<p>Stem cell therapy to restore beta cell functionality (for T1) would threaten and disrupt that sweet regular cash flow. So I imagine companies will fight hard to keep diabetics purchasing their regular consumables until the end if time if possible
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LeroyRaz大约 1 年前
I am surprised that 1 million allegedly buys that level of corruption and influence.<p>It seems strange it would only cost 1 million to make the association a corporate shrill for Stevia when diabetes as an issue costs billions to the US.<p>If you&#x27;re going to forgo your princibles and be corrupt then at least get higher price for doing so!
blackeyeblitzar大约 1 年前
The best guidance on avoiding diabetes or living with it is found on YouTube and not the ADA. The ADA guidance and standards of care are often incorrect or outdated or very conservative. For example standard care says you can’t reverse insulin resistance, which is just plain wrong.
GrantMoyer大约 1 年前
From the article, it looks like the ADA didn&#x27;t give dangerous advice, and the doctor accusing them has views about diabetes opposed to the current medical consensus. For example, the Dr. claims the ADA is surpressing that a low carb diet can reverse type 2 diabetes. However, it isn&#x27;t a low carb diet specifically which can &quot;reverse&quot; type 2 diabetes, it&#x27;s a low calorie diet in general and the resulting weight loss.
johnfernow大约 1 年前
Here&#x27;s a great PDF I found on the ADA&#x27;s website from fall 2023:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;professional.diabetes.org&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;media&#x2F;fall_2023_erp_news.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;professional.diabetes.org&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;media&#x2F;...</a><p>&gt; This content is brought to you by Splenda, a proud supporter of the American<p>&gt; Diabetes Association<p>&gt; A Message from Splenda<p>&gt; Splenda® is committed to helping people achieve their health goals by making it<p>&gt; easier for people to reduce the amount of added sugar in their diet. You likely know<p>&gt; Splenda Original Sweetener (“the yellow packet”), but did you know we also make<p>&gt; Splenda Stevia? Splenda Stevia is a plant-based sweetener made from the<p>&gt; sweetest part of the leaves of the stevia plant. And just like Splenda Original,<p>&gt; Splenda Stevia contains zero calories and zero sugar. The people you see can use<p>&gt; Splenda Stevia to make a variety of delicious recipes from appetizers and drinks to<p>&gt; entrées and desserts.<p>&gt; Check out the ADA&#x27;s Diabetes Food Hub® for recipes that use Splenda Stevia, like<p>&gt; these Slow-Cooker Sweet &amp; Spicy Turkey Meatballs, which are perfect for a football<p>&gt; party, and these Gluten-Free Mini Eggnog Cupcakes which add cheer to any holiday<p>&gt; gathering!<p>WHY??!!! I get upset enough with tech YouTubers making misleading claims about VPN sponsors, but the American Diabetes Association allowing sponsors that sell products that several studies link with causing and worsening diabetes to write parts of their newsletters is an entirely different degree of unethical behavior. No, the link between artificial sweeteners and diabetes has not been firmly established and more research is needed, but it&#x27;s a likely enough connection that the CDC and WHO[1] have expressed concern and have noted the potential links.<p>[1.] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news&#x2F;item&#x2F;15-05-2023-who-advises-not-to-use-non-sugar-sweeteners-for-weight-control-in-newly-released-guideline" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news&#x2F;item&#x2F;15-05-2023-who-advises-not-to-...</a><p>I get it, organizations have to get funding somehow. But if the American Lung Association started allowing vape companies to write part of their newsletters, I think people would rightfully be outraged. Sure, vaping is less bad for you than cigarettes, and may even be a helpful way of quitting for some, but allowing them to be a sponsor is a major conflict of interest and causes you to lose credibility.
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johnfernow大约 1 年前
&gt; My view is that diabetes is an urgent national scandal. Over 100 million Americans have diabetes or prediabetes, and 100,000 die from the condition annually. In addition, every year hundreds of thousands of people with diabetes have limbs amputated or suffer blindness or kidney disease. Diabetes costs our country $400bn annually to treat.<p>So about 4x as many deaths per year as homicide, twice as many as suicide, twice as many as car crashes, twice as many as accidental falls, and a multiple of plenty of other preventable causes of death. Obviously some of these other types of deaths take far more years off people&#x27;s lives than diabetes, but I think the author is right to call it an urgent national scandal.<p>&gt; Her meticulous account depicts the world’s most important diabetes patient advocacy organization as a cynical fund-raising machine, anxious to please its corporate overlords at the expense of the millions of people with diabetes it is supposed to be trying to help. “The defendant’s conduct shows that they were party to a scheme to defraud the American people by approving and endorsing recipes submitted by Splenda to be lauded by the ADA as a healthy choice for people with diabetes, when the ADA knew that those recipes were contrary to the ADA’s guidelines and well-established and emerging scientific principles,” the complaint reads. In case you’re curious, the ADA and Splenda appear to be still at it. As I write this, the ADA’s Diabetes Food Hub web page still features no fewer than 203 recipes – some marked “sponsored”, some not – that include Splenda, whose parent company’s $1m contribution has brought to light the utter insanity of our diabetes epidemic.<p>I really wish this could have gone to the discovery phase. Hopefully there will be investigations.<p>&gt; And although type-2 diabetes is often reversible through a low-carbohydrate diet, the ADA and the pharmaceutical industry don’t seem very interested in acknowledging that. Instead, they promote a laundry list of corporate deals and pharmaceutical treatments that have failed to stem the disease’s lethal and expensive impact on American life.<p>I&#x27;m not naïve enough to think that all (or even most) of the tens of thousands of people dying from type 2 diabetes each year would be saved if the ADA didn&#x27;t give poor advice, but I also think it&#x27;s wrong to think that it&#x27;d have had no impact: insulin has been infamously expensive for many years in the US, and insulin pumps are thousands of dollars. I certainly think some of the millions of people who ended up dying from type 2 diabetes would have made lifestyle changes had it been made clear that it&#x27;s often reversible with diet changes, if for no other reason than to save money. If you don&#x27;t have a pump, having to take insulin shots throughout the day is a pain the ass, so again, I think some people would have made lifestyle changes to avoid that had it been made clear that it was an option.
Animats大约 1 年前
Cures are nice, but the money is in chronic conditions.
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renewiltord大约 1 年前
Classic principal-agent problem. It&#x27;s why you can&#x27;t usually trust experts who aren&#x27;t aligned with you. One way is skin in the game.<p>But I suppose &quot;if you aren&#x27;t paying, you&#x27;re not the customer&quot; applies as well to nutrition and medicine as it does to free webmail.
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AlbertCory大约 1 年前
&gt; Over 100 million Americans have diabetes or prediabetes<p>These two are not the same. It is dishonest to combine the two.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chicagotribune.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;prediabetes-the-epidemic-that-never-was-and-shouldnt-be&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.chicagotribune.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;prediabetes-the-ep...</a><p>I&#x27;m not quite ready to publish my hypothesis that prediabetes is a scam. I need to research it a little more. But a statistician friend of mine responded:<p><i>A handful of years ago, I looked into the National Health and Nutrition Evaluation Survey, NHANES. To first order, the 1AC level defining pre-diabetes, 6.5, is rather close to the median level. So that&#x27;s scam-adjacent. Every once in a while, my doctor thanks me for giving him this NHANES table. </i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1g3Icgu0ixLtYCjscYoiCydS4xGZRznJ9bBopHcJwpsw&#x2F;edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;1g3Icgu0ixLtYCjscYoiC...</a><p>As soon as you say this, someone will respond &quot;My father has diabetes and he had his foot amputated!&quot; This is not minimizing diabetes; it&#x27;s questioning whether <i>prediabetes</i> is a thing.<p>How is it different from saying &quot;Men over 60 have pre-prostate cancer?&quot; Or, &quot;we all have pre-death?&quot;<p>You should have a regular blood test and your doctor should be monitoring a lot of things, including blood sugar. If the level is close to diabetes, he or she should warn you. But that&#x27;s different from saying, &quot;you have a disease.&quot;
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