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Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work (2021)

116 点作者 kakakiki大约 1 年前

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jawns大约 1 年前
I am at a point in my career where I can be selective and only consider 100% remote roles. I am also a manager, so I understand some of the management challenges that lead people to dismiss or be skeptical of the claim that remote work can be just as effective as office work.<p>One thing I will admit: It is harder, as a remote manager, to manage low performers or people who show signs of disengagement. You can get more out of an office worker who lacks intrinsic motivation than a similar remote worker.<p>But that&#x27;s not a knock on remote work itself. You just have to have the right people on the team, just as in any other circumstance.
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pragma_x大约 1 年前
Every time this comes up I&#x27;m struck by the same thought: do these cats measure _anything_ their people do? And what in the world happens when someone takes off for two weeks to go on vacation?<p>The solution to all this is very simple. Management needs to hold everyone, including other managers, accountable for measurable output. These are usually based on key performance indicators (KPIs) and are semi-standard in many industries these days. From there, you don&#x27;t have to care how, when, or why anyone does anything, just as long as they hit the target.<p>This also has reaching ramifications for everything. People are no longer stressed out by working under ill-defined objectives or nebulous directives. Remote work is now palatable, since things are now results-focused rather than means-focused. Under-performing employees are now easier to discharge with cause, and identifying top performers is dead-simple. Reports are now easy to generate, sometimes without human involvement, so nobody can fib to the CEO. And all that applies to managers too, which I think we can all appreciate.<p>In contrast, a workplace that runs on vibes and gut-checks will have the drama cited in the article. The whole org relies on a near co-dependent level of trust, leading managers to have anxiety attacks when they can&#x27;t put eyes on things. Accountability is less about facts and more about feelings. Nobody has a firm grasp on how the company will make that quarterly objective, but we&#x27;re all going to &quot;work hard&quot; and &quot;do what it takes&quot; anyway. It&#x27;s all well and good for a startup of 20 people, but it&#x27;s miserable for an army of 200 or 2000.<p>Even in-office, we shouldn&#x27;t be conducting performance reviews on a gut check or how happy you make your boss. It should be down to setting measurable goals, gathering supporting data through the year, and assessing the results at regular intervals.
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cajunboi34213大约 1 年前
The hard part about remote is collaboration outside of meetings is hard. Chat is soul-less and leads to a lot of misunderstandings with tone. Video is too formal. Phone is interrupt. For the past 6 months we&#x27;ve been using a walkie-talkie app that transcribes and it&#x27;s pretty magical. It feels like it&#x27;s solved some of the issues with unstructured collaboration. Plus the bonus is you can add anyone to a discussion and they can catch up by listening to previous messages at 1.5X
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hahamrfunnyguy大约 1 年前
In 2008 or so I worked for a consulting company where most of the workers were remote. Eventually, they opened up an office where I lived. We were encouraged (required?) to come into the office a few days a week. We free parking, table tennis and a cooler stocked with pop and beer.<p>My teams were always remote but I found the social aspects to be beneficial.
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rrr_oh_man大约 1 年前
Related, an all time classic:<p>Maker&#x27;s Schedule, Manager&#x27;s Schedule (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;paulgraham.com&#x2F;makersschedule.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;paulgraham.com&#x2F;makersschedule.html</a>)
api大约 1 年前
The latest salvo in the RTO war is reposts of stupid TikTok and Xhitter videos of people bragging about goofing off the entire time while they WFH.<p>That’s a sign of either a shit manager, over hiring, or bullshit jobs (jobs that you think you need but you don’t).<p>It still happens in an office except instead of baking or lounging they are fucking off on the Internet or creating make work to look busy but not actually creating value.
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osigurdson大约 1 年前
One thing that should certainly be considered is the externalities associated with on-premise work as more roads, transit, infrastructure, emissions, etc, is required. Taxes should probably be lower for companies embracing remote work.
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_tk_大约 1 年前
Frankly, a 2021 opinion piece doesn’t tell you anything about the state of remote work. So much has changed in the last three years. CEOs and companies have adapted, and in my anecdotal experience, lots of employees as well. Notably those who were once bullish on full remote, would like to see some form of hybrid setup if it makes sense.
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efitz大约 1 年前
I’ve been thinking recently that a lot of the pathologies in tech work culture come from the fact that a lot of the most successful tech executives are “wunderkinds” - people who have an extremely rare combination of incredible talent AND incredible drive - who want to only work with people like themselves.<p>The upside of this is that if you are such a person, as an employee you’ll be amply rewarded. I’ve worked with a number of such people at several of the big tech firms and they are recognized and compensated like the unicorns they are (such people could easily go start their own businesses if they wanted to be entrepreneurs, so they have to be rewarded lavishly to keep them as employees).<p>But most people aren’t Elon Musks or Jeff Bezoses or the like. Most of the people I have worked with are talented and motivated but not nearly so far out on the right hand long tail.<p>And motivation waxes and wanes for most people; most people have balanced lives that include lots of time spent not working for someone else.<p>When I see pathologies such as RTO (which is always combines with making the offices more shitty with hoteling and such), and performance management practices reminiscent of Roman decimations, I see wunderkinds who are unable to accept that most people aren’t like them.
constantcrying大约 1 年前
&gt;Remote work is seen as a threat to many CEOs simply because of their fear of change and resistance to progress.<p>No. This just is false and extremely lazy thinking. CEOs do not &quot;fear change&quot; or &quot;resist progress&quot;, these are absurd motivations to ascribe to thousands of people you have never met and it goes counter to what actually happens. CEOs change things, they like to change things a lot, they also love &quot;progress&quot; as progress is the only way to expand.<p>What CEOs fear isn&#x27;t &quot;change&quot;, they fear that if employees aren&#x27;t physically tied to an office, they aren&#x27;t mentally tied to it during work. They fear that employees will neglect their duties and communication will get harder. Whether they are wrong or right is irrelevant. But if you aren&#x27;t even willing to ascribe to someone the ability to think deeper than &quot;change bad&quot;, then all your arguments are irrelevant as you are arguing against a man made of pure straw.
synergy20大约 1 年前
maybe we need tackle this from a totally different perspective.<p>tie the performance to rewards monthly, no more stable monthly salary other than some base salary, you get paid each month based on your results, the manager can focus on how to itemize the tasks and set expectations, instead of how to watch out low performers.<p>the better you perform, the more you earn, if the produce is not good for a while, you&#x27;re let go so you can focus on your other freelance jobs.<p>yeah this is rare a common approach, but something needs to be changed to cope with remote jobs.
paulcole大约 1 年前
Yeah and bad employees fear office work lol.
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knallfrosch大约 1 年前
I don&#x27;t think a May 2021 article – before widespread vaccination even made return-to-office policies possible, and before the tech layoffs – is the best starting point.<p>Okay, calling CEOs that demand a return &quot;bad&quot; and &quot;fearful&quot; is a provocative take, but the article doesn&#x27;t back up these assumptions. Much less does it actually explain the reason why bad, and only bad, CEOs &quot;fear&quot; remote work.<p>With, for example, Apple enacting RTO, one has to wonder whether the author would go so far as to say that Tim Cook is a &quot;bad&quot; CEO who &quot;fears&quot; remote work.
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throwaway22032大约 1 年前
It&#x27;s really bizarre to me that people think that companies have been built on sand.<p>It&#x27;s really fucking hard to make a sustainable profit in business. Most businesses fail.<p>Yet HN turns around and says - no, management are clueless, I, the worker, know all.
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noashavit大约 1 年前
High-performers will perform regardless of location. If they are constantly unblocking people and being pinged they might have some lags in deliverables and the reason for that might not be as clear as if they were in office and everyone can see them being tapped on the shoulder and being distracted.<p>Those that lack internal motivation&#x2F;sense of urgency might perform better on-site, but you as a manager might need to micro manage them. Is it worth it? I’m not sure. The employee and manager will most likely not enjoy the situation, esp if it goes on for a while.
jfranche大约 1 年前
Remote work should just be for call center type jobs (where the feed of work is consistent); sales people that constantly visit clients (which doesn&#x27;t happen much now ); or extremely talented superstars.<p>For everyone else that has a bad commute and wants to be home, they should consider retiring or get one of the jobs above.<p>If people can&#x27;t don&#x27;t 5 days in office, they should move to a 4 day work week and get 80% of pay.
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