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Write Plain Text Files (2022)

63 点作者 arguflow大约 1 年前

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ReleaseCandidat大约 1 年前
&gt; Every device, including ones long gone, and ones not invented yet, can read and edit plain text. [...] But plain text? Always. Everywhere.<p>Somebody needs to watch &quot;Plain Text&quot; (Dylan Beattie, NDC Copenhagen 2022) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gd5uJ7Nlvvo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=gd5uJ7Nlvvo</a><p>For example, have fun with ISO 8859-2 vs. Windows 1250. And add Windows 1252 for giggles. And for the ASCII-only persons: there still is EBCDIC.
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gorgoiler大约 1 年前
When you have an iPhone, even text files feel like a custom proprietary format that is silo’d in its own world.<p>My problem is that while vim, markdown to HTML, and headless browser printing to PDF all work great on my desktop Linux machine there isn’t really a way to translate this to iOS and back.<p>If I could (a) mount my iCloud Drive in my Linux machine and (b) have a markdown centric editor on my phone then it would all work nicely. Unfortunately I feel like the lure of commercial success means Apple won’t allow the former and anyone working on the latter is doing it as a closed, proprietary, commercial system.<p>I curse myself every day for mixing operating systems!
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unnervingduck大约 1 年前
I use Obsidian myself, which simply stores text in Markdown files. It essentially shares all the pros of plain text: it&#x27;ll be readable in the future, I&#x27;m not stuck with a single platform, I can sync and sort them into directories.
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nicbou大约 1 年前
I rebuild my timeline thing to use files as the database instead of PostgreSQL.<p>Having everything as CSV, markdown, GPX etc means that I can use all the excellent software in the world to manipulate data... Or just a text editor. It&#x27;s a lot easier than writing my own software to manipulate my own database.<p>It also means that my data will outlive my software without any effort.<p>And it means that backups are handled by my existing backup software.<p>I also moved my website to a static site generator earlier. Same reasons. I edit that website for a living, and using Sublime Text instead of a CMS WYSIWYG editor sped up my work dramatically. I can&#x27;t overstate how much better it made batch edits.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nicbou&#x2F;timeline">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nicbou&#x2F;timeline</a>
safety1st大约 1 年前
Plain text is the hacker&#x27;s file format.<p>You can jot down ideas every day in markdown somewhere, maybe in a daily journal that&#x27;s part of your second brain. Then you can move them into documents in a Git repo. Then you can feed them into an LLM and start producing interesting functions for your personal utility library. Then you can string them into a software solution for one problem or another.<p>This probably sounds vaguely disturbing if you are wearing a software engineer&#x27;s hat. But if you&#x27;re wearing a hacker&#x27;s hat it&#x27;s nirvana. At no point do you have to worry about being bound by the limitations of a particular tool, you are just transforming one chunk of text into another and moving those chunks around, really.
gnabgib大约 1 年前
Previously on HN: 11 months ago [1] (14 points, 4 comments) 2 years ago [0] (739 points, 412 comments)<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30521545">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30521545</a> [1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36591494">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36591494</a>
ArtTimeInvestor大约 1 年前
What is a good way to edit plain text files on a phone?<p>Do iOS and Android ship the tools to open&#x2F;edit&#x2F;save plain text files these days?<p>Edit: My question is not about third party apps. It is about what ships with iOS and plain Android.
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eternityforest大约 1 年前
I use Markdown a lot, but for casual everyday stuff... I really like having sync. Keep opens instantly, has Android widgets(Less important now that Google Tasks has taken over some of what I used to do with Keep), and fast search.<p>But if I&#x27;m doing a Real Project, Markdown files in a git repo are perfect.<p>Luckily it&#x27;s very easy to just copy from Keep to plan text.
slmjkdbtl大约 1 年前
My only problem with all thing plain text is I need cross-platform sync cuz I write on both my phone and laptop. For these I use Simplenote which has served me super well, but still looking for solutions where I can actually write plain text &quot;files&quot; while have convenient syncing.
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wodenokoto大约 1 年前
Related (in my mind, at least):<p>Notebooks without lines are the plain text files of the analogue world.<p>No lines to dictate how and what you want to write or draw.
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kkfx大约 1 年前
I do the same in org-mode, simply because pure-textual access (like <i>grep) it&#x27;s nice but limited, clickable links, attachments, executable links (elisp: but also various over link types like notmuch: for mail) are really a thing.<p>The issue it&#x27;s that they are desktop-bound, no matter what you do. You can also run Emacs on Android but such platforms are meant just to consume content and munge data from users, not to produce, so it&#x27;s not a matter of UI or mere bits availability. For sharing there are a bit of limitations but that&#x27;s still easy if needed.<p>Beside that the most IT-frustration is the current state of development done to suck out all power to the user: we have IPv6 since decades, oh yes it&#x27;s not perfect, but we perfectly can have a global per device and we can buy personal domain names and have subdomains on them. Unfortunately even if NOT having that is hyper-costly and challenging (</i>NAT just to say) that&#x27;s not there. FLOSS available to uncomfortable self-host is damn limited, we miss things like:<p>- damn simple desktop screen sharing NO THIRD PARTY, no need for special configs, not need to circumvent NAT and so on<p>- damn simple VoIP with or without video, P2P or with a personal server, but one, not to be configured with a gazzilion of things (yes we have GNU SIPWitch, Mumble, but still they are not a thing you deploy in a snap)<p>- damn simple internet-wide file sharing (we have gazillion of options, none simple and effective)<p>From a technological standpoint, those are perfectly possible, not done because &quot;we need to been able to surveil users&quot;, &quot;nobody is interested&quot; (blatantly false, seen the popularity of crappy surveilling proprietary services we all know) and so on.<p>Long story short: yes we can do some thing to use computers effectively, taking notes is a good example, but we potentially can do MUCH MUCH MUCH more and we could not because of some &quot;interests&quot;. That&#x27;s a real shame simply because we lose decades of evolution and we only have one life, no respawn in the IRL game.
freddie_mercury大约 1 年前
So step one is &quot;be American so everything you want to write fits in American Standard Code for Information Interchange&quot;?
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