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How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

176 点作者 tambourine_man大约 1 年前

17 条评论

lelanthran大约 1 年前
I want to make my own search engine, one day, with my own crawler.<p>There is an SEO-proof way to determine what the ranking of a site <i>should be</i> - penalise it for each advertisement, penalise further for delivering different content to the crawler[1], allow logged-in users to down-rank a site, etc.<p>Basically, a site starts off with a perfect score, then gets penalised for each violation, for each dark-pattern, for each anti-user decision they took.<p>This sort of ranking cannot be gamed by SEO spammers, because ... why get their site to the top of the rankings if they can&#x27;t put any advertisements on it?<p>Even if they do manage it, their time in the sun will be brief.<p>[1] Random spot-checks with different user agents with different fingerprints should work.
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wernsey大约 1 年前
I had to do some digging on SuperUser [0] to get this working in Firefox, because it has the &quot;Add Search Engine&quot; button disabled by default.<p>* Go to `about:config`<p>* Change `browser.urlbar.update2.engineAliasRefresh` to true<p>* Now you can go to `about:preferences#search`<p>* ...and click the &quot;Add&quot; button below Search Shortcuts<p>* Add `<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=%s&amp;udm=14" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=%s&amp;udm=14</a>` as your URL.<p>* Set the name to &quot;Google Web&quot; or whatever you prefer and choose a keyword. You can also change your default search engine or other preferences.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;superuser.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;1756774&#x2F;40115" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;superuser.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;1756774&#x2F;40115</a>
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tqwhite大约 1 年前
I solved this Google problem by <i>paying</i> someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, &quot;paid, ad-free search engine&quot;.<p>I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It&#x27;s been months.<p>And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation makes me very happy. It has other features that are nice.
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triyambakam大约 1 年前
Honest question - why still use Google at all? Whenever DDG became good enough (seven? ten? years ago?) I used it exclusively. Lately I use a mix and have moved on from DDG, but I still never went back to Google and don&#x27;t understand how people can tolerate it; I find the results really bad.
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ndom91大约 1 年前
Happy Kagi customer here and pushing it where I can. The results are much better than DDG or Brave search, which I both tried for a few months, and it&#x27;s got some really nice built-in tools to bump domains up or down in results, block domains, etc.
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mrintegrity大约 1 年前
It won&#x27;t be long before google removes or butchers this feature. Like the feature that used to exist where you could easily block domains from being returned in a search, I guess it was too popular, as this &quot;web&quot; view likely will be too
gorbypark大约 1 年前
Unfortunately it seems that Safari hijacks all google.com&#x2F;search?q= urls and strips all (or at least utm) query params, except q, when google is set to the default search engine!<p>Even pasting in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;google.com&#x2F;search?q=apple+sauce&amp;utm=14" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;google.com&#x2F;search?q=apple+sauce&amp;utm=14</a> to the url bar doesn&#x27;t work. The only way I was able to get this to work was set DuckDuckGo (or anything non-google) as the default search engine, then use the extension &quot;Smart Keyword Search&quot; to setup a shortcut. I have !g &lt;query&gt; for normal google search and !gw &lt;query&gt; setup for google &quot;web&quot; search.
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wczerniak大约 1 年前
Is it worth it? Should we fight against search engine with workarounds like this? Looks like AI is just another problem with Google Search. But maybe I don&#x27;t feel this pain like you do. I&#x27;ve fixed them all about a year ago by switching to Kagi and never looked back.<p>Well, maybe at the beginning a little bit, but I like Kagi results more than Google now.
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ajsnigrutin大约 1 年前
I don&#x27;t mind the info boxes,... I get mad at google when I input two words into the search field, press enter, and the first few results don&#x27;t include one of the words (50% of the search! .. even include the &quot;show only links which include...&quot;), and then uses synonym results for the second word, which gives out totally wrong results.
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dandrew5大约 1 年前
I made something that achieves the same thing[1] except it uses Google&#x27;s Programmable Search Engines. It&#x27;s self-hosted and you can configure it the same way as the article using the `%s` string substitution.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dan-lovelace&#x2F;giggle">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dan-lovelace&#x2F;giggle</a>
carlob大约 1 年前
Did anyone turn this into a duckduckgo bang?
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ankit219大约 1 年前
I like the web feature, specifically when you are researching. Can understand the &quot;hiding&quot; at this point, as I guess they are still figuring out the best place for it. Sundar Pichai in some interview said that generative search only appears on some specific queries. If that is true, and they have some logic to determine which experience to show (i think i might be wrong here), then would love to see &quot;web&quot; option as default or in the top strip for research type queries where it&#x27;s most needed.
tcsenpai大约 1 年前
At this point, any decent alternative like duckduckgo or qwant is organically better than google
eggsyOnCode大约 1 年前
For Firefox I recommend installing an extension &quot;search engine helper&quot; and follow the steps in their help menu. This will add a modified google in your firefox settings. You just need to select that as the default before using it.
rolfus大约 1 年前
I also use the Vivaldi browser, and the trick from the article (adding %s&amp;udm=14 to the search URL in the search settings) works just as advertised. Such a pleasant little QOL improvement.
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est大约 1 年前
google.com gave me a 302 and stripped the udm=14 part. Is this intentional?
ThePowerOfFuet大约 1 年前
&gt;Google[...] My Default Search<p>No thanks.