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Ask HN: Linux vs. Mac vs. Windows for Programming, Deep Learning, AI, ML, DS

8 点作者 shivc12 个月前
Mac works out of the box but then linux has its advantages and so does windows. Which OS do you prefer and why?

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wkat424212 个月前
Linux for me. Mac is way too expensive especially if you want lots of RAM which you need for most AI purposes. Windows is an ad-ridden spyware fest these days and you don&#x27;t have control over updates and reboots. So both Mac and Windows are non-starters for me. I played a bit with things on windows but I&#x27;d never use it for something serious. Microsoft invests a lot into their AI tooling now but I don&#x27;t want to be beholden to them. I have to deal with them at work but I don&#x27;t trust them.<p>I built a Linux server for AI LLM inference with a Radeon Pro card and it was really good value for money. It took some doing to get it working especially with the lesser AMD compatibility but I saved a ton of money not buying Nvidia and it performs excellently now.<p>Windows probably would have been easier to set up but I consider every configuration problem a learning experience and my freedom is worth more than my time.<p>The reason the Mac is so popular is that it&#x27;s the only way to get a GPU with direct access to tons of memory (up to 192GB) and it&#x27;s cheaper than Nvidia dedicated AI options. But both have astronomical costs not justifiable to a hobbyist like me.
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cpach12 个月前
Question to OP: What do you see as the primary benefits of Linux compared to macOS? Do you ever feel that you would miss a broader selection of proprietary applications? If I switched back to Linux again (after eleven years) I think I would miss nice Mac applikations, like the Acorn image editor. But maybe these days there are not too many applications that I would not find a good alternative for.
tkuraku12 个月前
Linux all the way.<p>Mac doesn&#x27;t support Nvidia cards.<p>Windows just feels sluggish compared to Linux.
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ActorNightly12 个月前
You should phrase your question better. &quot; for Programming, Deep Learning, AI, ML, DS&quot;, is incredibly generic and encompasses a whole shitload of things.<p>I mean, I prefer windows because it lets me run all software, from everything linux (including graphical apps) under WSL2 to all the windows specific software like CAD and DJ software.<p>But if for example you wanted to train llm models in any reasonable time, you need to spend some dough on a dual 4090 (or upcoming 5090) setup at a minimum, which will likely just be a linux server that you ssh into from a different machine (cause you don&#x27;t want to use the graphics cards for rendering).
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leejoramo12 个月前
The software you create will typically run on systems that are very different from your workstation.<p>The systems your software actually runs on will typically either be much more or less powerful. Compare a large data center or embedded audino to system on which you type code.<p>Therefore my answer is use the Software and OS that you are most productive as a Programmer for your development system, and consider the deployment environment separately.<p>-- Now my personal answer...<p>I have used computers since the early 80s, and a professional programmer since the mid-90s. I have used many operation systems over the years: TRS-DOS, MS-DOS, CP&#x2F;M, OS&#x2F;2, Solaris, etc. Today, I spend time daily using: Linux, Windows and Mac.<p>* My primary workstation is KDE Neon on Ubuntu<p>* macOS for mobile work and my personal life<p>* Windows mostly for SQL Server and Active Directory<p>* Multiple Linux Distributions and Windows for Servers<p>While I like KDE very much and it is what I use for current my job, I am personally MOST productive doing Development work when using macOS as my Desktop Environment and Linux as my servers.<p>I highly customize my Desktop Environment to fit my way of working. I find that macOS is the most customizable for me, followed by KDE. Windows unfortunately is a distant third. (For some added context, my basic AutoHotKey file for Windows is over 1000 lines long, so I am very familiar with how to customize Windows.)<p>I like macOS because nearly everything I could want runs on it, my Unix-style tools, highly polished GUI apps, MS Office, Adobe, (or the many better alternatives from small developers).<p>I also really like Apple hardware, especially MacBooks for notebooks. My high-end Dell Workstations are great, but I vastly prefer MacBooks for on-the-go.<p>Some people find benefit from running their Workstation on the same OS as their Servers. This can be a big factor for you. For me, I am deploying to Windows, Redhat-style or Debian-style Linux. I find the difference between Redhat and Debian to be about as significant as macOS&#x27;s BSD. So I don&#x27;t get an advantage of running one system.<p>I write a lot of code that never runs on my Developer system, but only on the various deployment environments.<p>For servers, I highly recommend using the stack recommended by your selected technologies. This tends to mean you will be running multiple server environments.<p>If you are asking this question, with some thought to limited funds, I would consider what are the advantages to you personally for a Linux Desktop Workstation vs a MacBook.<p>Hopefully I have given you some useful food for thought. And much success you your endeavors.
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