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After Learning Her TA Would Be Paid More Than She Was, This Lecturer Quit

25 点作者 chippy12 个月前

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zamfi12 个月前
I had a similar experience at another UC, where I lectured (and am now a PhD student!) -- and the general thrust here is correct: lecturers are often paid a FTE-equivalent salary that is not much higher than what a graduate student would be paid.<p>That said, there are a few pieces to this that unfortunately didn&#x27;t make it into the article:<p>1) At that pay rate, the TA would have been expected to work at 50% effort (20h&#x2F;week) in that position, in order to earn that salary.<p>2) At my UC, a &quot;full-time&quot; load for lecturers is 6 courses per year, or 3 per semester. (This may be different at quarter-system UCs.) That means that a course is considered 1&#x2F;3 of full-time, not 50%, with an expected time commitment of ~ 13h&#x2F;week over that same time period.<p>3) Thus from a &quot;compensation for labor&quot; perspective, the hourly rate for the TA is thus about 30% less than the lecturer -- of course, this rests on many assumptions about how much time is actually spent per course -- and the TA is expected to spend quite a bit more time on the course than the lecturer is. (This ignores the work needed to develop a course, of course, but often lecturers are asked to teach already-designed courses.)<p>The kicker, though, is that the TA is probably also getting <i>their tuition covered</i>, an extra benefit worth $7-15k, depending on a student&#x27;s circumstances, and depending on whether you believe this tuition reimbursement is an accounting gimmick, as some do. If you do include this amount, the TA is indeed paid much more than the lecturer!
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mmastrac12 个月前
It sounds like they are just two different unions?<p>&gt; That’s because after 48,000 graduate students, postdocs, and researchers in the University of California system went on strike in 2022 and won pay increases and expanded benefits, some TAs are now earning more than the instructors in their own classes. The minimum academic-year salary for first-year teaching assistants, for example, will increase from the $25,000 they got in the spring of 2023 to $36,000 this fall.
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monkey_monkey12 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;NNmGI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;NNmGI</a>
thatguy090012 个月前
If the issues is TAs went on strike for more pay, clearly the answer is for the professors to strike as well. It seems to work.
ecocentrik12 个月前
Greek history really isn&#x27;t the prestige area of study it used to be. I wonder how much funding universities are going to be redirected away from liberal arts and the humanities to fund machine learning departments in the next few years? The money shuffle is pervasive.
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jedberg12 个月前
Sounds like the professors and lecturers should form a union (or push their union to do better)<p>This happens in other professions too where non-unionized folks manage unionized folks. The managers can make less because they don&#x27;t have collective bargaining.
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jslaby12 个月前
She was making $2936 a month teaching with a PhD? Even if it is part-time, that seems fairly low. She had 120 students in each class, let&#x27;s say tuition is about 5k per class which comes out to $1.2 million. Revenue at universities have increased dramatically and is approaching nearly a trillion total.
dguest12 个月前
I&#x27;ve heard of this kind of thing happening when faculty are based in a developing country and they hire a post-doc who has to live in, say, Switzerland.<p>When they live in the same place, definitely smells a bit weird. But hey, could have been worse, she could have taken an unpaid professorship [1].<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;story&#x2F;2022-03-21&#x2F;ucla-recruited-for-a-faculty-job-that-carries-no-pay" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;story&#x2F;2022-03-21&#x2F;ucla-recru...</a>
bsima12 个月前
as she should