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Electrically conductive bricks can replace fossil fuels in industrial processes

68 点作者 mjbellantoni12 个月前

13 条评论

thinkingkong12 个月前
If these systems have enough thermal mass then maybe you could even power them with solar or daily offset cheaper power in another storage mechanism.<p>Between this and the newer co2 reduction technologies in kilns we might be close to finding ways to build combined steel and cement factories that have massively reduced greenhouse gas emissions.
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passwordoops12 个月前
Neat idea. I&#x27;m usually skeptical (cynical?) when news outlets write advertorials for world-changing startups, but I&#x27;m gonna keep an eye on these guys.<p>Very clever!
tentacleuno12 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;QGs6x" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;QGs6x</a>
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mauvehaus12 个月前
How does this fit into the wider picture of steelmaking with electric arc furnaces? Those have been around for a good long while; what can this do that an electric arc furnace can&#x27;t?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electric_arc_furnace" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electric_arc_furnace</a>
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specialist12 个月前
Neat. We need more &quot;box of hot rocks&quot; thermal storage solutions.<p>It&#x27;s fun to compare and contrast strategies, as startups explore and define the problem space.<p>For example:<p>Fourth Power is a heat to electricity solution. It uses graphite bricks (up to 2400°C), liquid metal for plumbing, and thermophotovoltaic cells.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gofourth.com&#x2F;our-technology&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gofourth.com&#x2F;our-technology&#x2F;</a><p>Electrified Thermal Solutions is an electricity to heat solution. It combines the heating element, storage, and exchanger into a single brick (up to 1800°C).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrifiedthermal.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrifiedthermal.com&#x2F;</a>
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ChuckMcM12 个月前
I can&#x27;t say I&#x27;ve ever really thought about using electricity to generate high heats because it&#x27;s often way less efficient (convert x -&gt; electricity -&gt; heat, vs just chemical(combustion) -&gt; heat) But sure, if you had &quot;free&quot; electricity (wind&#x2F;solar) that is less of an issue.<p>I&#x27;m wondering if anyone has done the math for a cement plant in the southwest surrounded by PV solar.
peepeepoopoo7312 个月前
This is incredibly wasteful and will end up being a net-negative for greenhouse gas emissions by crowding out other, more efficient uses of that electricity besides heating things up. One of the first things they teach you in engineering thermodynamics is that electricity is very high quality energy compared to process heat, and that you can do a lot more useful things with electricity such as powering motors or electronics. Electricity generation typically results in lots of waste heat, which you would be far better off recycling into process heat through cogeneration instead of what this article is doing, which is throwing away process heat to convert electricity into even more process heat.
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abdullahkhalids12 个月前
The patent [1] has more details if anyone is interested.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;patents.google.com&#x2F;patent&#x2F;US20220132633A1&#x2F;en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;patents.google.com&#x2F;patent&#x2F;US20220132633A1&#x2F;en</a>
audunw12 个月前
Yeah, this is why I’m not too worried about the energy storage side of going 100% renewable energy in a scenario where we also decarbonise completely.<p>Storing energy as heat is dead simple, cheap, can let you store huge amounts of energy, and you can store for fairly long timespans.<p>It doesn’t matter that you can’t feed power back to the grid (well, maybe you can.. you can convert the light given off the heated block with photovoltaics.. but that won’t be a huge factor). If we decarbonise industrial heat it will create enough demand for renewables that the minimum output of renewables (over a larger area, I think it’s fair to assume <i>some</i> grid improvements over the next years) will be more than enough to cover base load needs. We will probably have quite a lot of batteries for frequency regulation and smoothing out the duck curve. Some of that will also help with dunkelflaute. But mainly there will just be so much renewables that the output never goes below what is needed on a given day.<p>There’s so many aspects of decarbonisation that makes balancing the grid easier. Electric cars is another example, where a lot of people will have flexibility of delaying or being proactive with charging based on electricity price forecasts. I expect most rental car companies will provide some grid balancing services, and in the near future you’ll have to pay extra to check out a car with 100% SoC.
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genocidicbunny12 个月前
I wonder how useful this would be in space. Say, some sort of smelter or furnace on the moon. Fossil fuels are hard to come by there, whereas you could probably set up a fairly large solar farm relatively cheaply.
quaintdev12 个月前
But how efficient is it? I don&#x27;t see that info in the article.
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tofof12 个月前
They&#x27;re not very conductive if they&#x27;re getting 1800 degees hot when you pass current through them.
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kazinator12 个月前
They&#x27;re gonna hit an Ohm run with this one.