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The Scully Effect

119 点作者 joebig12 个月前

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TMWNN12 个月前
Highly relevant:<p>TIL that Leonard Nimoy met many fans who became scientists because of Spock&#x27;s example, and talked to the &#x27;Star Trek&#x27; actor as if he were a fellow researcher. Nimoy always nodded and told them, &quot;Well, it certainly looks like you’re headed in the right direction.&quot;<p>&lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6o8egb&#x2F;til_that_leonard_nimoy_met_many_fans_who_became&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6o8egb&#x2F;til_th...</a>&gt;<p>TIL that DeForest Kelley (Dr. McCoy on &#x27;Star Trek&#x27;) had wanted to become a doctor, but could not afford medical school. He received many letters from fans who went into medicine because of his character: &quot;To influence the youth of the country ... is an award that is not handed out by the industry&quot;.<p>&lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6pwdrr&#x2F;til_that_deforest_kelley_dr_mccoy_on_star_trek&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6pwdrr&#x2F;til_th...</a>&gt;<p>TIL that James Doohan (Scotty on &#x27;Star Trek&#x27;) received an honorary doctorate from the Milwaukee School of Engineering. The university gave him the degree after half of its students said in a survey that his character had inspired them to choose engineering as a career.<p>&lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6onyh6&#x2F;til_that_james_doohan_scotty_on_star_trek&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;np.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;todayilearned&#x2F;comments&#x2F;6onyh6&#x2F;til_th...</a>&gt;
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tombert12 个月前
I am not a woman, but I consider Silence of the Lambs to be in my top five favorite films, and a large part of the reason I love it so much is because of how it actually talks about sexism in more subtle ways. The male characters aren’t overtly sexist to Clarice, but there’s tons of little microagresssions (e.g. multiple male characters making a pass at her when she’s just trying to do a job, the Crawford subtly trying to talk to the police chief without her because he thinks woman can’t handle gruesome details, etc.). None of the characters are really doing anything reportable, and they’re not “bad” people, and they’re not cartoonish stereotypes of sexists. It was something I noticed even as a teenager watching the movie the first time. I would like to think I am a tiny bit more aware of institutional sexism than I would have been without the movie.<p>It’s too bad that everything else in the Hannibal universe has blown chunks.
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NemoNobody12 个月前
Diversity cannot be based solely on the visual assortment of your characters, or checking all the boxes to make sure that everyone is included - that gets a sort of representation but often so obviously forced, so cliche, one dimensional, characters that have been done so many times before, we all know exactly why they are there - to brag about the &quot;diversity&quot;<p>I&#x27;m a gay man in my 30s - there wasn&#x27;t really representation of me onscreen til recently, what was there was a stereotype that I saw repeatedly and really didn&#x27;t do me any favors.<p>Funny so many are mentioning Star Trek, I&#x27;m on a watch of the whole shows RN and I just got to Discovery - coming from Enterprise and after so many critics praised the diverse cast and LGBT characters, I was curious and expecting better than I&#x27;d seen Trek at least do before.<p>Instead, Discovery is an example of exactly the kind of manufactured diversity I don&#x27;t want to see, at all - the same predictable &quot;one size fits all&quot; lazy bs that is honestly almost worse than no representation at some point<p>I&#x27;m on episode 6-7, maybe it gets better but so far such a predictable disappointment
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teekert12 个月前
I&#x27;m a man (also from early 80&#x27;s) and I still identified more with Scully than with Mulder. She was just so cool.<p>Now I have a daughter and she&#x27;s all about unicorns, rainbows and princesses and I keep telling her she can be a knight. Or a scientist. Weirdly I think all those Barbie cartoons on Netflix are having a good influence on her, Barbie is strong but fallible, honest, admits her mistakes, works hard to correct them, does not give up. She super privileged though...<p>I feel like my daughter is getting quite good in social situations because of Barbie (and Lucky from Spirit, and Zoe from The New Adventures of Lassie). In any case, it has a different influence on her than the stuff my son watches, which is (a sigh of relieve) also increasingly involving strong women: Avatar (the last airbender), She-Ra, Carmen San Diego... Strong women... on the Battle Field.
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wumms12 个月前
&gt; The influence of the Dana Scully character on my generation of girls is known as the Scully Effect.<p>The linked PDF is offline; archived version [0] from 2018; created somewhere between 2016-2018.<p>[0] THE ”SCULLY EFFECT“: I WANT TO BELIEVE…IN STEM <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180605152837&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;impact.21cf.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;sites&#x2F;2&#x2F;2018&#x2F;03&#x2F;ScullyEffectReport_21CF_1-1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20180605152837&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;impact.21...</a>
webwielder212 个月前
No one ever remembers&#x2F;points out that in the show, Scully was ALWAYS WRONG. Like, every single time. It was aliens or a monster that did it, guaranteed.
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cjs_ac12 个月前
I was a physics teacher in Australia and the UK from 2015 to 2021. I wrote a comment about teaching in a boys&#x27; school yesterday, but most of my career was spent in girls&#x27; schools, due partly to the Vogonic culture of the NSW Department of Education and Training.<p>There were many &#x27;get girls into STEM&#x27; initiatives, and they all felt very tokenistic and superficial. They were science-<i>themed</i>, but none of them got at the <i>guts</i> of STEM.<p>In Australia, physics - in the schools that offer it - is taught by chemistry or biology teachers who&#x27;ve been given a physics textbook. In the private boys&#x27; schools, there&#x27;s a cadre of actual physicists, but they&#x27;re old men on the verge of retirement; students in government schools, systemic Catholic schools and private girls&#x27; schools get a very un-mathematical physics education, if their school offers a specialised physics course at all.<p>The end result of this is the propagation of a very misleading view of STEM to girls. All the high-paying STEM jobs are in those fields that have a rigorous mathematical formalism - physics, computer science, engineering - but our STEM outreach programs ended up pushing girls towards &#x27;soft science&#x27; careers in biology. I understand that there are now so many bio lab workers in the UK that they&#x27;re now on minimum wage.<p>If we really want to encourage women and girls to take up high-paying STEM careers, we need to be demonstrating and teaching the cognitive styles that underlie success in mathematics. At the moment, all we&#x27;re doing is making maths pink[0].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;skepchick.org&#x2F;2010&#x2F;08&#x2F;smbc-women-in-mathematics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;skepchick.org&#x2F;2010&#x2F;08&#x2F;smbc-women-in-mathematics&#x2F;</a>
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zaep12 个月前
Can it possibly be true that 60+% (she writes &quot;nearly two-thirds&quot;) of women in STEM have this character as an influence? I&#x27;m only barely aware of this media property and here in Europe I feel our Media is fairly &quot;American&quot; still, does this show have such a global reach? I found, for instance, that the X-Files movie only had 4.2% of its revenue internationally, so I think its not such a popular property outside the US. How would even 10% of chinese female STEM workers hear of this character?<p>I believe she is citing the PDF she links, where only an archived version is available right now. It seems to be a US-only study, although I don&#x27;t see any explanation of where participants were from.
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georgeburdell12 个月前
“Elizabeth Rubio lives with too many cats in Austin, Texas”<p>That’s the upshot. Ms. Rubio’s life path is an evolutionary dead end. For her message to perpetuate itself into the future, she needs to create women role models that are smart but also retain femininity and value having a family, and not just try to have them ape men. Muslim [1] and Israeli populations walk this line well<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem&#x2F;553592&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;the-more...</a>
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t31222712 个月前
hello,<p>imho. also Samantha &quot;sam&quot; Carter from star-gate &quot;SG1&quot; was a similar (female) role-model in the late 1990ties &#x2F; early 0es :)<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt0118480&#x2F;characters&#x2F;nm0850102?ref_=tt_cl_c_3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt0118480&#x2F;characters&#x2F;nm0850102?re...</a><p>cheers!
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kaycebasques12 个月前
&gt; We can’t create a reality until we can imagine it.
HocusLocus12 个月前
Nichelle Nichols (1932-2022, Uhura on Star Trek) had a similar impact, bless her sweet soul.<p>2011-07-10,11: Startalk: Nichelle Nichols. great interview!<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startalkradio.net&#x2F;show&#x2F;nasa-and-nichelle-nichols&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startalkradio.net&#x2F;show&#x2F;nasa-and-nichelle-nichols&#x2F;</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startalkradio.net&#x2F;show&#x2F;a-conversation-with-nichelle-nichols&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startalkradio.net&#x2F;show&#x2F;a-conversation-with-nichel...</a><p>Through her ground-breaking role as Star Trek&#x27;s Chief Communications Officer Lt. Uhura, Nichelle Nichols became a passionate advocate to get women and minorities involved in real-world space exploration. Many were inspired to become astronauts thanks to her efforts, including NASA&#x27;s current administrator, General Charles Bolden. While she continues working through various endeavors to get young people excited about space, she hopes that the power of Star Trek will inspire us to keep pushing the boundaries of the final frontier.<p>2011-07-11: StarTalk: A Conversation with Nichelle Nichols<p>Some might know Nichelle Nichols best from Star Trek, but this actress, singer, dancer and space advocate has much to say beyond her role in TV&#x27;s exploration of the final frontier. In this exclusive interview, she talks about how science fiction and Star Trek --- and specifically her ground-breaking role as Chief Communications Officer Lt. Uhura --- not only impacted her life, but also had an influence on society over space and time.
pdpi12 个月前
Somebody I don’t often see cited as this sort of aspirational role model is Gil Grissom from the original CSI show.<p>He’s the archetypical nerd — quiet introvert who’s enthusiastic about his little niche to the point even his also-pretty-nerdy colleagues think it’s a bit much. He also rises to the challenge of being a leader and a mentor, and he does so with the tools his personality gives him.
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liampulles12 个月前
What I always enjoyed about Scully&#x27;s character was her skeptical approach. She understood that the job of FBI agents is to build a case, to document, and be rigorous. She followed the evidence.
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EricE12 个月前
When I first saw the headline my thoughts revolved around how the heck can a long past CEO of Apple still be relevant? Ugh...
kleiba12 个月前
<i>&gt; The influence of the Dana Scully character on my generation of girls is known as the Scully Effect. We women who frequently watched The X-Files as teenagers were more than 50% more likely to study a STEM field in college than women who didn’t watch.</i><p>Good old &quot;correlation is not causation&quot; at play, I suppose: if you&#x27;re scientifically inclined, you&#x27;re probably more likely to both watch X-Files and go into a STEM field later on.
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lupire12 个月前
I find it incredibly bizarre, ther scientists, of all professions, are inspired by fantasy story characters. It&#x27;s so at odds with what science is.<p>I&#x27;m a a scientist and I enjoy sci-fi, but the cause and effect is firmly in the other direction.
maxrecursion12 个月前
I seen a job posting for the FBI that blatantly stated you will work well over 40 hours a week, and all but made clear your job will be your life. So, yeah, it&#x27;s not a job for someone that wants work&#x2F;life balance.
light_hue_112 个月前
This is why representation matters. Regardless of how some parts of the political spectrum hate it now.<p>There&#x27;s an amazing story about MLK and Star Trek that&#x27;s similar.<p>Nichelle Nichols recalls <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startrek.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;nichelle-nichols-remembers-dr-king" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startrek.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;nichelle-nichols-remembers-dr-...</a><p>She wanted to quit. She was a real actor, from a serious theater background and this was going to hurt her career. This all took place at the height of the civil rights movement. Selma, Bloody Sunday, had just happened 2 days earlier.<p>Verbatim from the story:<p>That weekend, Nichols attended what she remembers as a NAACP fundraiser, &quot;though, it could have been something else.&quot; Whatever it was, she found herself in Beverly Hills, and seated at the dais as other notables entered the room to join in on the festivities.<p>&quot;One of the organizers of the event came over to me and said, &#x27;Ms. Nichols, I hate to bother you just as you’re sitting down to dinner, but there’s someone here who wants very much to meet you. And he said to tell you that he is your biggest fan,&#x27;&quot; Nichols said. &quot;I said, &#x27;Oh, certainly,&#x27; I stood up and turned around and who comes walking over towards me from about 10 or 15 feet, smiling that rare smile of his, is Dr. Martin Luther King. I remember saying to myself, &#x27;Whoever that fan is, whoever that Trekkie is, it’ll have to wait because I have to meet Dr. Martin Luther King.&#x27; And he walks up to me and says, &#x27;Yes, Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan.&#x27; You know I can talk, but all my mouth could do was open and close, open and close; I was so stunned.&quot;<p>Dr. King revealed to Nichols that Star Trek was the only show that he and his wife Coretta allowed their little children to stay up and watch. Further, he told Nichols what the show meant to him personally and detailed the importance of her having created a character with &quot;dignity and knowledge.&quot; Nichols took it all in and finally said, “Thank you so much, Dr. King. I’m really going to miss my co-stars.” Dr. King&#x27;s smile, Nichols recalled, vanished from his face.<p>&quot;He said, &#x27;What are you talking about?&#x27;&quot; the actress explained. &quot;I told him. He said, &#x27;You cannot,&#x27; and so help me, this man practically repeated verbatim what Gene said. He said, &#x27;Don’t you see what this man is doing, who has written this? This is the future. He has established us as we should be seen. 300 years from now, we are here. We are marching. And this is the first step. When we see you, we see ourselves, and we see ourselves as intelligent and beautiful and proud.&#x27; He goes on and I’m looking at him and my knees are buckling. I said, &#x27;I…, I…&#x27; And he said, &#x27;You turn on your television and the news comes on and you see us marching and peaceful, you see the peaceful civil disobedience, and you see the dogs and see the fire hoses, and we all know they cannot destroy us because we are there in the 23rd Century.&#x27;&quot;<p>&quot;That’s all it took,&quot; Nichols continued. &quot;I went back on Monday morning and told Gene what had happened. He sat there behind that desk and a tear came down his face, and he looked up at me. I said, &#x27;Gene, if you want me to stay, I will stay. There’s nothing I can do but stay.&#x27; He looked at me and said, &#x27;God bless Dr. Martin Luther King. Somebody truly knows what I am trying to do.&#x27; [Roddenberry] opened his drawer, took out my resignation and handed it to me. He had torn it to pieces. He handed me the 100 pieces and said, &#x27;Welcome back.&#x27;”
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datavirtue12 个月前
I always thought it was odd that Scully was always the one getting clobbered by some psychopath. Kidnapped, beat on many occasions, abducted and impregnated. If they want to be like Scully they are brave.