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Ask HN: Anyone left their job because of RTO?

58 点作者 snailb12 个月前
Rumours has it, our company is planning RTO. I&#x27;ve been working remote for over a decade and not planning to go back to the office.<p>I was wondering if anyone here went through this and actually left because RTO was enforced. How did you go through it all? appreciate any feedback.

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wavemode12 个月前
Company wanted me to not only return to office, but also move to the west coast. Leaving was a no-brainer.<p>But the job market is really shit. In the past I&#x27;ve left jobs and got new offers in a week. This time around I was out of work for almost three months.
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99990000099912 个月前
Sorta.<p>I begged for permission to work remote when a family member got sick. I was reluctantly granted it, but they lined up my replacement behind my back. Luckily I trust no one in this business so I jumped ship before they fired me.
MH1512 个月前
I joined an in-person team then reorged in to a pseudo-remote team. I requested to move remote or transfer offices, was denied. So I left.<p>Unfortunate circumstances as I liked the people but didn&#x27;t like going in to an office every day to work remote.
derwiki12 个月前
RTO announcement paired with sweeping comp cuts, hot on the third round of layoffs. It was a rough market, but I held out for a company that prioritized remote work and I’m glad I did. Linux has been fully remote for 30+ years; there is no way you’re going to convince me CRUD work can’t be done well remotely.
user6885878812 个月前
I allowed myself to be fired for not returning. It took over a full year after the RYO deadline for the firing to happen.
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yimmothathird12 个月前
I wish, market is too dangerous right now though. I was out of work for significantly longer than I should have been because my one dealbreaker for the longest time was remote.<p>Current job started out 3&#x2F;2 hybrid but full RTO is being mandated by the end of the month. Not looking forward to it.
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momofuku12 个月前
Ian Goodfellow, of the GAN fame, left Apple and rejoined Google DeepMind because of Apple’s mandatory RTO policy.
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Joel_Mckay12 个月前
Most skilled staff will not be returning to the office, and do not require micromanagement.<p>Yet we did just fire one guy for claiming he was still active on a project that was put into maintenance mode 6 months ago. Some people are not mature enough to handle managing their own time.<p>Personally, the office space was a cost only second to labor, and people would have to be epically unproductive to offset the operational savings. =)
rickcarlino12 个月前
Pre-COVID I had a WFH job that decided to sunset remote work after 7 months of employment. I was offered severance or relocation. The choice was simple at the time, but the market is very different now. Think it over carefully.
cranberryturkey12 个月前
I&#x27;ve been out of work for 10 months. Be careful out there.
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lpapez12 个月前
I feel like this new wave of RTO is the same like any other org change disliked by the lower ranks.<p>Competent people switch jobs, while incompetent are fired, and the mediocrity stays and grudgingly conforms which is exactly what companies want - authority over the interchangeable cogs in the machine.
austin-cheney12 个月前
I left Bank of America because of potential RTO for a small consultancy that was fully remote. Huge mistake. I was getting burnt out on the gross incompetence in my line of work that new employer astonishingly sealed the deal.
dakiol12 个月前
I somehow did. My previous company started to enforce everyone living in cities in which they had offices, to RTO. I was working far away from any of such cities, and they let me continue working remotely. But seeing many of my colleagues go to the office just to open Zoom to chat with me was sad. I found another (remote) job and resigned.
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makingstuffs12 个月前
Yeah, I got a job as a dev at one of the UK&#x27;s high street fashion retailers during the pandemic. Got a load of praise from directors n everyone else for implementing a proper development workflow within the department, as a junior.<p>After the pandemic we all got an RTO mandate and I found a new, fully remote, job within a month.<p>The director of the department I was in at the original employer told me she would not be ‘grassing’ on me for not going to the office but it didn’t sit right with me so I left.<p>After all that I made sure that my current contract has an addendum clearly stating I can:<p>1. Be fully remote<p>2. Work my hours whenever I want as long as my core responsibilities are met<p>3. Work from anywhere in the world.<p>I’ll be honest, it is great I have that not but it does make finding a new job a bit harder as I am not willing to sacrifice the freedom I’ve earned here.
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aaomidi12 个月前
I was a full remote employee. The RTO Google did, didn’t impact me. But it ruined the remote culture that was built and created a tiered culture where full remote employees had access to a “privilege” that no longer existed for others. It ruined communication and created unnecessary friction and anxiety. Decided to leave.
throwaway2203212 个月前
I left my job because they enforced WFH.<p>It went like this, paraphrased:<p>Hi boss, I don&#x27;t think that avoiding any form of social contact is good for me. Since it&#x27;s clear that this is now the new expected working environment, I am resigning effective immediately. Toodles!<p>I guess it&#x27;d be a bit like that but the other way around.
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pestatije12 个月前
RTO - return to office
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dividedcomet12 个月前
Yep, though RTO was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I had had 3 direct managers in a year and a half, had projects sunsetted out from under me, and several reorgs. Add in a forced return to office and I was out of there.
cjoelbrowning12 个月前
One thing I’ve observed is that outside the main tech job markets (bay area, nyc, etc), many remote jobs offer higher salaries than similar in-person roles.
muzani12 个月前
Yup, main reason I left my previous job post-covid. Traffic was worse, and they downgraded the office to a smaller, damp room, with a really loud air-conditioner. Half the team left after I did.<p>Current job does 2-3 days hybrid too, but it&#x27;s more like synchronised days. If you can&#x27;t make it, or if you&#x27;re more productive at home, nobody yells at you to. Many people love working in person, but even the most extroverted ones don&#x27;t like being forced to, especially when they&#x27;re also under pressure to get work done.