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Show HN: Bliss – A constructed writing system for fast and beautiful writing

54 点作者 tcsenpai12 个月前
Of course, this is just for fun and is absolutely NOT to be used for anything related to security or secrecy.<p>Anyway, I&#x27;d love to hear some feedback :)

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thesuperbigfrog12 个月前
You might want to choose a different name to prevent confusion with Blissymbols, a constructed writing system:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blissymbols" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blissymbols</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blissymbolics.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.blissymbolics.org&#x2F;</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wnycstudios.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;bliss-2302&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wnycstudios.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;bliss-2302&#x2F;</a> (5 minutes after start)
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hooby12 个月前
Many years ago, I&#x27;ve been playing around with similar ideas - although my attempts were probably more like &quot;abstract fonts&quot; then actual ciphers.<p>What feel kinda curious to me about this one, is that I see no reason or pattern for why certain letters are circles, squares or triangles. It seems to be a case of just taking all consonants in the order they have in the latin alphabet, and then randomly making the first four circles, the next four squares, the next four triangles, etc...<p>In my own attempts I would always try to have meaning to the shape. Like is it a voiced sound or not? Is it a plosive? Is it &quot;soft&quot; or a &quot;hard&quot; sound? etc.<p>So, if you a see a triangle, you know that imparts a certain quality to it... the only distinction you see here is between vowels and consonants?
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jsnell12 个月前
Which language is this writing system meant for? It doesn&#x27;t seem like a great fit for English due to the vowel system. Based on a quick check, something like 40% of the most common words will require using at least one wovel placeholder. (Either start with a vowel or have two vowels in a row).<p>Also, you say in the intro that this script is intended to have some unique advantages. What are they? The article doesn&#x27;t actually mention any.
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snthpy12 个月前
It would be nice to have some example words and sentences because I can&#x27;t quite picture how the vowels look.
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papamena12 个月前
Fun! I would recommend relating characters based on their function, pronunciation, origin rather than their place in the alphabet. For example B has more in common with P than with C. Similar for D and T, G&#x2F;K, I&#x2F;J&#x2F;Y.
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fjfaase12 个月前
I once spend some time on a very compact writing system that would use five of the segments of the seven segment display (not using the two vertical segments on the right) and use those for the next letter in the word. With the requirement of the characters always having at least one vertical segments that leaves you with 28 combinations, just enough to represent the 26 characters of the Latin alphabet. I was wondering if one would recognize words from the shape of the &#x27;glued&#x27; together characters.
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crabbone12 个月前
One thing these systems often overlook is that in the physical world symbols don&#x27;t necessarily come aligned to invisible horizontal lines. For various reasons users may need to write vertically, along a curve, in a cross-word fashion...<p>A system where every symbol repeats with 90 degrees rotation multiple times is... not going to be very useful. Some writing systems like Arabic or Devanagari sidestep this by forcing the symbols to align on a line, but they sacrifice some functions to gain that.<p>Another aspect is kerning: when symbols don&#x27;t uniformly fill the allocated space some pairs of symbols will inevitably look farther apart than others. Ideally, there should be as few such pairs as possible.<p>Of course, there are some other practical constraints like the direction in which the writer needs to move the writing tool, will the writer be able to see the symbols as they write them due to how they move the tool. How easy it is to confuse an essential element of a symbol for a decoration (what if you try to create a cursive version of a grotesque font? what if you want serifs?)<p>----<p>If I were to approach the task of creation of ideal writing system, I&#x27;d probably be looking at symmetries. An approach that would ensure that symbols are more or less unique under affine transformations. Another thing: something that eg. Japanese phonetic alphabet tried to do: group symbols by morphology. Eg. &quot;B&quot; and &quot;P&quot; should be more similar than, eg. &quot;B&quot; and &quot;A&quot;, but there should also be a common theme for &quot;B&quot;, &quot;D&quot;, &quot;G&quot;, &quot;V&quot; that&#x27;s absent from &quot;P&quot;, &quot;T&quot;, &quot;K&quot;, &quot;F&quot;, and so on.<p>Also, there&#x27;s really no reason to stick with Latin alphabet as the template. The I&#x2F;J&#x2F;Y, C&#x2F;K&#x2F;Q and V&#x2F;U&#x2F;W groups aren&#x27;t good, just one character for the group is enough.
MissTake12 个月前
What is the actual use case here?<p>As stated, it’s not for ciphers.<p>As commented it’s not for dyslexic people.<p>As remarked upon it’s not for speed writers.<p>In addition it’s just the Latin alphabet using a set of squares, circles and triangles. So much so that V was thrown in with U as though this competed with the original Latin (which also had no distinction between I &amp; J).<p>So we have potentially hard to both read &amp; write character set that has way too many chances of being misread due to sloppiness (e.g. people like me and my spider crawl) that provides just what benefit?
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coldblues12 个月前
For fast writing, I&#x27;d say shorthand is probably much better. Gregg and Teeline are the more popular variants, with a more simplified version of Gregg called Gregg Notehand.
mkl12 个月前
Any dyslexic people here? I am not, but I understand mirror images of the same symbol can be problematic, and this alphabet is built out of them.
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avyeed_desa12 个月前
So... It&#x27;s Hangul?
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kseistrup12 个月前
In tokipona, each word [can] have their own glyph: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jan-ne.github.io&#x2F;tp&#x2F;sp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jan-ne.github.io&#x2F;tp&#x2F;sp</a>
jakubmazanec12 个月前
I fear all those triangle letters (LMNPQRST) would be hard to distinguish in a handwriting - even in you example I&#x27;m having difficulty to discern T and S in THIS.
voidUpdate12 个月前
Is there a comparison of speed between this and normal cursive writing? I&#x27;d like to see just how much faster it is
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k__12 个月前
Cool idea.<p>I often thought, writing speed could be improved quite a bit if we just removed strokes from some characters.
lemper12 个月前
bro, a serious question. which part of it is &quot;fast&quot;?
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