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The Operational Wargame Series: The best game not in stores now (2021)

116 点作者 cl4211 个月前

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bane11 个月前
I have a friend who is <i>very</i> into these types of games, having dedicated about 1200 sq ft of their home to them. The commercial ones are usually centered on specific historic battles, and often follow a sort of &quot;script&quot; where things happen at specific turns e.g. the introduction of new units or weather conditions, that sort of thing.<p>They seemed interesting, and I came away with two main observations:<p>1 - A game can take a very very long time. Turns might even take days or weeks on particularly elaborate ones. Thus there is a major time commitment during which you must leave the game out and setup for an extended period of time.<p>2 - My first thought when encountering these was &quot;why aren&#x27;t they just using a computer?&quot;. But I quickly learned that the ability to spread out a map, that might be many square meters, and see everything happening on it at once, without having to slide a monitor&#x27;s viewport around (or zoom in and out) has a number of massive advantages -- and (at the time I was looking at this) there&#x27;s really no display technology today that can replicate this.<p>I feel like both of these observations have changed significantly with the advent of cheap, high-resolution, networked AR&#x2F;VR headsets. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;d want to wear one entirely for the length of time a game might take, but we&#x27;re much closer now to having truly digital versions of this that eliminate many of the downsides.
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JoeDaDude11 个月前
The military has a long history of using war games for training, going all the way back to Kriegspiel [1]. At least one history book [2], has been written about the topic. However it is rare that these military training games make it outside of their domain and become available to the general public. A rare exception may be the games designed by Volko Ruhnke [3], who designed games for training the CIA (though these may not be war games per se, but rather games about complex geopolitical situations). Mr. Rhunke&#x27;s experience led him to become a highly successful commercial game designer.<p>[1]. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kriegsspiel" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Kriegsspiel</a><p>[2]. The Art of Wargaming: A Guide for Professionals and Hobbyists by Peter P. Perla (Author), R. Dawn Sollars (Illustrator)<p>[3]. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spyscape.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;meet-the-cia-spy-who-creates-wargames-for-spies-amateurs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spyscape.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;meet-the-cia-spy-who-creates-wa...</a>
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the_af11 个月前
It may not be immediately obvious, but these are not &quot;games&quot; in the hobbyist sense of the word (though I suppose hobbyists may get interested, though access to this one in particular seems to be restricted to the military) but &quot;simulations&quot; for teaching and training.<p>They are not supposed to be &quot;fun&quot;. They are supposed to be analysis tools. Their goal is different to a wargame for hobbyists, where &quot;playability&quot; is usually a greater factor than the simulation of real war concerns.<p>That&#x27;s why it&#x27;s OK that in a single day you can get one or two turns done. It&#x27;s not a game, people who attend these exercises are doing work-related stuff.<p>That&#x27;s why it&#x27;s also &quot;not in stores&quot;.
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te11 个月前
&gt; &quot;The turns do not take very long at all and teams of players can get in 2-3 turns in a normal work day.&quot;<p>Game does sound very cool, but lol, author has different game-playing expectations than I do.
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kkukshtel11 个月前
For anyone looking to dip their toes into Wargaming, I encourage you to look at GMT Game&#x27;s output. They have a ton of games like this of varying levels of complexity. The best way to get started is to try to find a game around a theme you&#x27;re interested in. These games are all (largely) in stores:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gmtgames.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gmtgames.com&#x2F;</a>
chaostheory11 个月前
Even simultaneous turn based strategy games take hours. I cannot imagine the time commitment for non-computer managed strategy games. I also don’t understand the point unless it’s mostly about face to face interaction.
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tmountain11 个月前
Might not qualify, but a few years back, my team started playing diplomacy online. I had never played a game involving so much back channel negotiation, double crossing, and strategy. It had a funny effect on water cooler conversations because folks that I had a great relationship with would approach me with a noticeable air of disappointment as a result of some of my less than honorable decision making. I highly recommend this game to anyone with a group of friends looking for a turn based war game spanning many days.
anan47411 个月前
Can&#x27;t open the page as of now, suspiciously look like just got attacked (they use wp). For anyone interested here the archive <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240630013513&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nodicenoglory.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;23&#x2F;the-operational-wargame-series-the-best-game-not-in-stores-now&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240630013513&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nodicenog...</a>
jonplackett11 个月前
Think we killed it :(
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artem_dev11 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3A7JZ4MjIMM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3A7JZ4MjIMM</a> 2h video about the game in great details by its creator Tim Barrick (July 2021)
Iprop11 个月前
I was the author of the article... AMA
Giorgi11 个月前
That looks like civilization but as a board game.