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A live ranking of airlines by how much luggage they are losing

113 点作者 lopkeny12ko11 个月前

23 条评论

crazygringo11 个月前
Wow, it can be <i>way</i> more common to lose your bag than I would have thought -- on Aer Lingus, a 1 out of 57 chance! (While Delta is 1 in 497, and Air France is 1 in 1,256 -- more what I expected.)<p>But the national aspect is seemingly even more interesting -- in India you have a 1 in 97 chance, while in the US it&#x27;s 1 in 497, and in Japan it&#x27;s <i>1 in 7,734</i>.<p>Now I&#x27;m incredibly curious to know what the real, actual culprits are. To what extent is is about the <i>check-in airport</i> or <i>connecting airport</i> that loses it, to what extent is it about <i>airline policies</i> around how luggage is handled, and to what extent is it <i>national regulation</i> that sets standards for airline performance, airport performance, or both?<p>Because the amount of <i>variation</i> here is just astounding and far, far, beyond anything I would have guessed. I would have naively figured that lost luggage was at a relatively &quot;economically efficient&quot; level and would therefore be pretty similar across airlines and countries... when clearly that is not the case at all.
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pimlottc11 个月前
&gt; By cross referencing [social media posts] with actual lost luggage data it estimates very closely how much luggage is constantly being lost.<p>&gt; Using social media as a data source has limitations but seems to be a good proxy indicator when combined with historical lost luggage data.<p>I&#x27;d like to understand the methodology better here. What&#x27;s the &quot;historical lost luggage data&quot; referenced here?<p>I&#x27;m skeptical of how accurate scraping twitter posts is. Many (if not most) incidents don&#x27;t get posted about, so I assume they must be doing some extrapolation.
cronin10111 个月前
Worth remembering that airlines don’t handle your luggage themselves and instead contract it out to ground handling companies.<p>It would be more interesting to map flight carriers&#x2F;numbers to handlers (e.g. Menzies) and regions to give a more reasonable blame&#x2F;availability overview.
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modeless11 个月前
Wow, I don&#x27;t know about the data quality but this ranking pretty much exactly matches my perceived quality ranking of airlines that I have flown, even though I&#x27;ve been lucky enough to never lose luggage. Maybe it&#x27;s not just luck since I always prefer Alaska or Southwest over United or American where possible.
morbicer11 个月前
Cool project, but aren&#x27;t luggages handled by the airport crew?<p>Attribution to airlines doesn&#x27;t make much sense to me. Country ranking is better but anecdotal experience tells me there are some cursed airports.
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x0x011 个月前
It was very unexpected to me that there are differences of 10x or more. Max&#x2F;min is 187!<p>Super interesting and thank you for sharing!<p><pre><code> 1.87% Air Lingus (1 in 50! wtf) 0.71% Spirit (well, it&#x27;s spirit) 0.45% Frontier (ditto) 0.43% United (ditto) 0.32% American 0.16% Ryanair (low cost carriers can be good if they want?) 0.19% Delta 0.14% Southwest 0.01% All Nipon (showing off)</code></pre>
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generalizations11 个月前
Very cool. Looks like 5 of the airlines all lost the same number (461) of bags though, and 12 more airlines lost 922 bags. Data acquisition error?
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qazxcvbnmlp11 个月前
This is cool, it’s also not the most accurate.<p>The US DOT requires airlines to submit reports on mishandled luggage.<p>One such is available here; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.transportation.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;dot.gov&#x2F;files&#x2F;2024-05&#x2F;May%202024%20ATCR.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.transportation.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;dot.gov&#x2F;files&#x2F;2024-05&#x2F;M...</a> Edit: see page 39<p>Point to point carriers such as Allegiant and Spirit typically do much better than carriers that operate a connection like Delta and United.<p>Since they are souring their data from people on social media I suspect the chance that someone complains about missing a bag varies more than the amount of missing bags.
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jmspring11 个月前
There is a regional issue that can come about. We hung out with friends a little over a week ago in Croatia and Italy. We came back via Rome -&gt; Copenhage n -&gt; SFO. No luggage issues on SAS.<p>Friends flew Split -&gt; London -&gt; SFO on British Airways. Apparently the day they left a large percentage of luggage that transited the BA terminal in Heathrow had issues. One bag was lost (returned to the US) for about 5 days, the other is still location unknown.<p>A big problem is that gate people and checkin people will suddenly claim &quot;the flight is full&quot; (some times it is) and try and force people to pack bags. When tasked with such, people don&#x27;t always think about possible valuables in their bags and rebalance accordingly.<p>In the case of our friends. Their &quot;carry on&quot; was not much bigger than a backpack. The flight was <i>not</i> full. The recovered bag, thankfully, had jewelry and other items the wife of the couple didn&#x27;t think about when agreeing to check the bag.
ronnier11 个月前
Note, the data source is social media posts.
jpnguyen11 个月前
Interesting charts to see! Interesting way to drive some airline accountability with data. I wonder if useful for regulatory bodies as metric for overall operational scorecarding, or correlations with overall airline safety&#x2F;incidents.
ilrwbwrkhv11 个月前
India, UK, Canada being on top of the losers list make total sense. Their countries will also rank similarly in any other arbitrary criteria.<p>I&#x27;m surprised to see Swiss so up there.
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the_mitsuhiko11 个月前
Unsurprisingly point-to-point airlines lose less luggage. I&#x27;m guessing that those numbers are greatly influenced by which airports you connect through or how commonly an airline flies through problematic airports etc.<p>US Airlines are probably also less often going to lose luggage since it&#x27;s typically (from my experience at least) impossible to check through luggage into a domestic connection.
PeterStuer11 个月前
I wonder how much this is airlines vs. airports. There was a time I needed to fly <i>a lott</i> for work. You got to know <i>never</i> to chech in luggage through Helsinki or Heathrow, as the chaces of entering the lost luggage carousel were &gt;40%, regardless of the airline taken.
bajsejohannes11 个月前
How much of luggage handling is the airline vs. the airport crew? I had assumed it was mostly the latter.
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ordu11 个月前
I wonder, why numbers of lost bags (last 30 days) are repeating for different airlines? For example All Nippon Airways (ANA), LATAM Brazil, Malaysia Airlines and Air Transat lost 461 bags each. This month it was even more popular to lose 922 bags.
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standardUser11 个月前
What is with the combined &#x27;GB&#x27; and &#x27;IE&#x27; characters? Why do they exist and why would anyone use them, given that they break the ctrl+F functionality.<p>Edit: They don&#x27;t show up when I copy paste them to a comment.
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throwaway6346711 个月前
British Airways lost my bag but found it again when I boarded my return flight, they paid all of the nice replacement clothes I bought during the trip. So I’m fine with them losing my luggage again!
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OutOfHere11 个月前
What I want to know now is: if a bag has a functioning tracker, such as by Apple or Samsung, does that help facilitate its recovery?
hn_user8217911 个月前
What a fun site and cool idea! Very interesting. A bit more depressing but I’d be a bit curious about rates of lost pets in cargo
low_tech_punk11 个月前
Wanna see a plot of this against each company&#x27;s stock price deviation from the airline industry benchmark.
ww52011 个月前
Yuck. British Airways is right at the top. I just bring carryons only.
nimbus8111 个月前
Airlines less traveled always have best score in the data.