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Show HN: Linux Mint Redesign Proposal

57 点作者 zmaznevegor10 个月前
After several months of work together with other designers, want to announce a Linux Mint redesign proposal.<p>First time posting, hope you like it!

27 条评论

diego_sandoval10 个月前
I like the fact that you&#x27;re proposing a visual update to a Linux distro. We need more &quot;visual&quot; people in this sphere, and more attention to aesthetics.<p>I like the general style you&#x27;re aiming for. Though I&#x27;m worried that the green could be a little bit too intense for UI elements. Current accent color options on Mint are softer colors.<p>I don&#x27;t like the logo. The lower square containing the L has waaay too much empty space in it, and the empty space is all concentrated on the superior-right side of the square, making it look very unbalanced. On the other hand, the square containing the M has little padding. These two things combined make the logo look unbalanced at two levels: one square with a lot of empty space vs one square with barely any empty space; the left square has all the empty space on one side of it.<p>Icons look great. However, what&#x27;s going to happen when some application has an icon that doesn&#x27;t adjust to your expectations of style and shape? Will it look good, or will it look very out of place? Mint&#x27;s current answer to this is &quot;we&#x27;ll just make our own icons for every app&quot;, which I don&#x27;t think is the right way to do it, for many reasons.
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tsimionescu10 个月前
&gt; Instead of presenting users with a pre-customized environment and default wallpaper, we introduced a new step in the installation process. Users can now select their preferred desktop layout before the first boot, easing the transition for newcomers and showcasing Linux&#x27;s customization capabilities early on.<p>When installing a new OS, I want the OS to be up and running as soon as possible, so I can then install everything else I&#x27;ll need, connect all my accounts, perhaps restore an old backup or sync with some source of settings.<p>As such, installation should never include unnecessary steps like this. There&#x27;s a good chance that the image I want is in some remote drive that I first need to connect&#x2F;login to. Making me choose some arbitrary image before I can get to the actual running OS is very unlikely to be helpful.
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Takennickname10 个月前
Nice overall. But I <i>hate</i> with all my heart:<p>Those funky looking people in the stock photos (looksmaxxers).<p>The new logo. The letter weights is way off. The L looks anemic.<p>The logo can be saved with few tweaks. Those people in the photos need to go back to the Abercrombie website. (what should you use instead? Tux, obviously.)
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complaintdept10 个月前
That logo reads ambiguously...In top-to-bottom left-to-right languages you may not be sure which letter to read first, the &#x27;M,&#x27; (top but rightmost) or the &#x27;L&#x27; (bottom but leftmost). I&#x27;d propose making the &#x27;M&#x27; a little smaller, and&#x2F;or moving it closer to the &#x27;L&#x27; so it looks more like a superscript at first glance. Maybe also differentiating the two with different cases and&#x2F;or the &#x27;M&#x27; in italics or script.
sirwhinesalot10 个月前
About as fresh looking as iOS7 back in 2013, which is to say it&#x27;s 11 years out of fashion, and I already didn&#x27;t like it back then.<p>Not wanting to be too harsh, there are aspects that I like, but it doesn&#x27;t &quot;wow&quot; me in any way. OSS design continuing the tradition of mimicking commercial software years after the fact.<p>Could be a lot worse, could be gnome 3 on release for example, but the floating menu at the top and the installation selection are silly. At least get rid of the latter, just pick a default.
n_ary10 个月前
Kudos! It actually looks great and polished. Also, an ubiquitous UI mimicking the MacOSX aesthetics and usage of larger padding actually is nice due to the new high resolution monitors we see everywhere these days.<p>The stock people photos are a bit odd, I never saw anyone have photos open on their desktop&#x2F;laptop ever.<p>That being said, very nice and clean design.<p>Also, I would say ignore all the naysayers here, the fetishising of the complex sharp and dense UI is a nostalgic reaction common among hardcore tech people who would love to live in the terminal, but alienates the other 99% population of the globe would prefer a clean ui and access to their applications with nice icons. There is a reason why all OSS suffer from extremely bad UI&#x2F;UX, because what ordinary people like(simple and clean UI with nice icons and descriptive texts) is immensely different from what tech people like(mostly 200+ magic keyboard shortcuts and arcane ways of starting apps from mysterious console).
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SeasonalEnnui10 个月前
One of the first things I do with a fresh install of an OS is to enable window titles on taskbar icons &amp; disable any grouping feature. Icons-only cause a cognitive hiccup as I try to work out what it means, and extra clicks from grouping is inefficient. Why is the icon dock so popular with designers?
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simonblack10 个月前
Yurk! Sorry, I don&#x27;t like the Logo <i>at all!</i><p>I thought the redesign was to do with the <i>STRUCTURE</i> of Linux Mint, not a piddly logo change.<p>And the central menu isn&#x27;t as worker-friendly when you have a screen-full of stuff already on there.<p>And what&#x27;s with the predilection for the panel at the <i>BOTTOM</i> of the screen. We are always working <i>downwards</i> on the screen. Therefore it&#x27;s more useful to put the panel at the <i>TOP</i> of the screen and out of your way. Just because MSFT and Apple put their panels at the bottom of the screen is no reason not to think carefully about panel placement.
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beretguy10 个月前
Do not mess with my Mint. It’s perfectly fine as it is now. No stupid redesign. Don’t try to screw it up.<p>Edit: before anybody freaks out, pardon me for harsh words, it looks super pretty, but we need less of this impractical “futuristic-looking flat design without borders and too much padding everywhere”.
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singhrac10 个月前
I like it ok, but there is actually a lot of white space (I think current Linux desktops suffer from this quite a bit, though I haven&#x27;t used one regularly in &gt;8 years).<p>For example, under &quot;Fresh OS interface&quot;, the start menu has lots of extra whitespace around the dividing bar - I think this is a central issue I see repeated everywhere. It looks aesthetically pleasing at first but that space is always dead (is it clickable? I have no idea!). I would encourage you to make it more obvious what the &quot;touch&quot; zones are in the menu, and to maximize them as much as possible. For example on the right side of the menu there shouldn&#x27;t be any space that isn&#x27;t clickable.<p>Also, for power users (i.e. Mint) the search bar should be bigger. Even on Windows where it&#x27;s barely usable because of random Bing and index stuff the search bar is full width on the menu.<p>The &quot;Type here to search&quot; text is too low contrast. My parents would not be able to read that. Similarly, in your screenshots, you should use a boldface font for the terminal text. On my QHD monitor it is difficult to read.<p>There is a desire in Linux desktop enviroments to wrap individual apps in a colored box associated with the app (e.g. Obsidian in light purple, Firefox in dark purple, etc.). I think this is ok but you should consider just using a single block of color like in the Windows taskbar.
FinnKuhn10 个月前
Looks like something anyone, who uses Linux will hate, but the general public would probably prefer.
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majewsky10 个月前
The first image on this site looks literally like a key visual for an Apple products: a swarm of rounded square icons with relatively flat colors and a centered heading in an I-can&#x27;t-believe-it&#x27;s-not-Helvetica font. This is the weakest image out of the entire bunch in terms of brand recognizability, so I find it weird that you&#x27;re leading with it. I hope that this should be relatively easy to fix, since it just needs a font that does not scream &quot;Apple Corp&quot;.<p>Also, I&#x27;m confused by your assertions about the logo: You&#x27;re saying that the intention of the new logo is &quot;simplify the design to increase versatility, improve readability of the initials, refine the colors [and] give a more modern look&quot;.<p>The last two ones are obviously subjective: I&#x27;m not a Mint user, so I don&#x27;t really have a stake in their existing design, but looking at their existing website side-by-side with your proposal artwork, I don&#x27;t think any of these strongly reads as &quot;more modern&quot; than the other.<p>Regarding the other two more objective goals, it would be nice to see examples of situations where the old logo is less versatile or less readable.
Endy10 个月前
Please don&#x27;t break Mint&#x27;s UI&#x2F;UX. It&#x27;s the only one that works like Windows.
solarkraft10 个月前
From another comment (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41008648">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41008648</a>):<p>&gt; It almost looks as though they&#x27;re leaving room for another L to make an LLM logo.<p>How fitting considering that the text reads like it was randomly generated.
soupbowl10 个月前
Looks pretty good, logo needs some work though. My parents love Linux mint so please keep up the good work!
NayamAmarshe10 个月前
This is absolutely stunning!<p>but I don’t think it’d ever be implemented. Old projects like Linux Mint are not very comfortable with the idea of looking more modern and sleek.<p>You’d have a better chance with a new design for ZorinOS but I don’t know if that’s needed since it’s already so modern.
nilslindemann10 个月前
Is the current dark layout with papyrus icons (or how they are called) not looking great?
rubenburdin10 个月前
I love it! Beautifully redesigned, worth a try!
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BigParm10 个月前
It looks incredible I love it.<p>But don&#x27;t those aesthetics belong to the desktop environment as opposed to the distro? I must misunderstand something somewhere.
hulitu10 个月前
White on light green and light green on white. I guess some people never learn.
dkrvchnk10 个月前
Looks amazing! &lt;3
randomcatuser10 个月前
Awesome work! I hope more design happens for Linux ;) designing the user experience and integrations seems like a key part of making it feel like a consumer desktop!
dizhn10 个月前
Opensuse is in the first stages of disassociating from the Suse trademarked name and logo. They&#x27;d benefit from something like this enormously.
righthand10 个月前
Disappointing, because it just makes Linux Mint look like every other Linux Desktop with a dock and floating menu bars.<p>For a distribution that is known to be Windows-like this is a huge step away from that identity and frankly makes LM feel like KDE Plasma.
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milankragujevic10 个月前
Im sorry but the logo is awful.
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Ksu_yolk10 个月前
Fresh, great!
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peter-m8010 个月前
Yet another MacOS clone? No, thanks.<p>I use mint because cinnamon.