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Mojeek – The alternative search engine that puts the people who use it first

110 点作者 red36910 个月前

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janalsncm10 个月前
In their article “Independent and Unbiased Search Results” I believe Mojeek fundamentally misunderstands the goal of a search engine. There is no such thing as an unbiased search engine. The entire purpose of a search engine is to be biased towards relevance. The opposite of biased isn’t fair, it is random.<p>If you search for “cars” what should the engine show you? There are likely billions of pages containing the word. (And for some queries, the correct page won’t even contain an exact string match.) If you want to create a useful ranking, your first few results need to have identified the correct intent but also be sensitive to timeliness and location.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mojeek.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;independent-and-unbiased-search-results.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mojeek.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;08&#x2F;independent-and-unbiased-sea...</a>
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fatfox10 个月前
Any alternative search engine that has its own, independent index is worth supporting, imo.<p>Mojeek results have overall been useful the last couple of times I used it and the team actually responds to search feedback.
poikroequ10 个月前
I&#x27;m very happy to see this exists! While I support Kagi, I believe they just use Bing API for most search results. We need real alternatives with their own search index.<p>Of course, we need to hamper our expectations. Google reportedly indexed over 400 billion pages in 2020, whereas Mojeek reported just 6 billion pages in 2023. So I&#x27;m not expecting to be wowed by Mojeek, but so far it doesn&#x27;t seem too bad.<p>Actually what excites me about it is it seems to use a more basic keyword search, unlike Google and Bing which are quite liberal in how they interpret your search query. If you&#x27;re looking for specific keywords or a specific string, you may have better luck using Mojeek.
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ttla10 个月前
So... an ad-based search engine? Sounds familiar. The alternative needed is an alternative business model
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anonu10 个月前
feels pretty good from just a few searches. I used DDG for some time as an alternative to google. In the end I had to switch back to google - the quality just wasn&#x27;t as good as google&#x27;s. Mojeek appears to have been around for 20+ years... is the business model just to sell search APIs to others?
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ttctciyf10 个月前
Lots of HN Q&amp;A with their CEO from 4 years ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25372401">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25372401</a><p>I was a bit surprised that on my first visit to the main mojeek search page the &quot;No tracking. Just search&quot; text entry field was prepopulated with a few suggestions that are personally relevant, possibly from reddit searches I&#x27;ve made!<p>Is this something the browser manages, or is there some tracking after all, I wonder?
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mirkodrummer10 个月前
There certainly is a need for an alternative to google search, maybe not ads based. It’s something that’s often discussed here on HN or elsewhere. Whether it being brave search, ddg, kagi search or whatever. Thing is I doubt the next “google search” killer will be a traditional search engine at all, like this Mojeek, and I can’t see something like Kagi attracting the masses(who never paid for search) with a paid subscription, it’s very clear to me that their business model is a niche business model. I don’t want to say the inflated word of todays news, but my feeling is the only way to kill google search is to not directly compete with them but rather have something disruptive like an llm is. Direct competition is a dirty and expensive business, and sooner or later you must turn profitable, where do you think the company will turn against in order to make a profit? Funny thing is that I believe that Google knows this and jeopardize his own business with cramped Gemini in search
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hilbert4210 个月前
Mojeek is now my default search engine on most of my computers.<p>As Mojeek has its own crawler, one often gets completely different results to say Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo.<p>I&#x27;ve found stuff on it that I&#x27;ve not found on those others. I&#x27;m not suggesting you give up the others completely in favor of Mojeek, rather that you use it as an adjunct to them.
rekabis10 个月前
I put in a word that I know would bring back <i>at least</i> 1,000 results that use that word precisely, and in its entirety.<p>It didn’t bring back a single one. I got a whole lot of results that had parts of that word, or looked similar to that word, but nothing with an exact match.<p>That word is not only a well-used German slang for a common vegetable (so, present in hundreds of online recipes), which is also used throughout the Middle East (food reviews and online menus), but it’s also a part of several company’s names (not related to the slang term) mainly because it’s also a German last name (online biographies and Wikipedia entries).<p>Clearly, this search engine has a long way to go before it comes close to being minimally functional.
deskr10 个月前
Link straight to the search page: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mojeek.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mojeek.com&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;m definitely going to try this out along with my Google search, since Google is feeding me so much shit every day.
sharpshadow10 个月前
I’ve tried the quotation marks and “inurl:” couldn’t find the string of the dailymotion video it showed me from the previous search.<p>I really hope there is a spreadsheet somebody can link me to?<p>Edit: All the features work without JS even the pictures which is really nice and it is fast.
ilius210 个月前
Just testing it out, I searched &quot;linux&quot;, and results are:<p>unix.stackexchange.com<p>Wikipedia article<p>archlinux.org<p>ubuntu.com<p>linux.com (finally)<p>It seems to favor online exposure over relevance a bit too much IMO.<p>For example Ubuntu is more popular than Arch, but Arch users visit their distro&#x27;s website much more frequently.<p>And few Linux users ever visit linux.com.
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ramesh3110 个月前
Until the people with money offer them enough of it
mythz10 个月前
Currently in search for an alternative search engine to Google or Bing, used DDG for a while but found Brave&#x27;s Search [1] structured results more useful which is now my default. So far so good but if Brave enshittifies their results may consider having to pay for kagi.com.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.brave.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.brave.com</a>
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nhggfu10 个月前
yuk<p>i typed in the query &quot;gambling industry news&quot;.<p>1st result was a category page on a junky affiliate site, with last post date Sunday 25 July 2010
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