TE
科技回声
首页24小时热榜最新最佳问答展示工作
GitHubTwitter
首页

科技回声

基于 Next.js 构建的科技新闻平台,提供全球科技新闻和讨论内容。

GitHubTwitter

首页

首页最新最佳问答展示工作

资源链接

HackerNews API原版 HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 科技回声. 版权所有。

Amazon Paid Almost $1B for Twitch in 2014. It's Still Losing Money

25 点作者 arunsivadasan10 个月前

5 条评论

jmyeet10 个月前
I&#x27;m always skeptical when a company says one of their divisions is losing money. It might be true but it also might just be an accounting trick.<p>Amazon rolled the Twitch IP into AWS as a service that other people buy called Interactive Video Services (&quot;IVS&quot;) [1]. Twitch uses this but so do third parties like kick.com. Is Amazon charging Twitch a reasonable fee for whatever AWS resources they use?<p>So is Twitch <i>actually</i> losing money or has the profit just been shifted to AWS? It&#x27;s unclear. Or has profit been siphoned away with the revenue cut Twitch gets from Amazon&#x27;s ad platform?<p>Amazon has an incentive to present Twitch as unprofitable as it uses that narrative to reduce the revenue cut streamers get from subscriptions and ads.<p>Lastly, over the last few years Twitch has hugely ramped up ad density (IIRC it is as high as 8 minutes per hour and a minimum of 4 minutes). To entice streamers with a higher ad density, Twitch has removed the exclusiviity clauses that Twitch partners used to have. How much money has this cost Twitch? Streamers can now use Twitch, for example, to simply drive traffic to Youtube.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ivs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;aws.amazon.com&#x2F;ivs&#x2F;</a>
Stealthisbook10 个月前
I wonder how the accounting nets out when you consider quite a lot of the costs are likely billed internally for use of Amazon infrastructure. Charging market rate for AWS hosting, billing services, etc, could helpfully make a low margin profitable operation into a tax deductible money pit.
mocha_nate10 个月前
i&#x27;m a big fan of twitch. the communities built around games and people contain so much value which don&#x27;t currently translate to revenue, but I think it will over time. I think twitch has to increase cost of advertising once people realize what kind of social capital that exists over there.<p>just my opinion.
评论 #41100332 未加载
janice199910 个月前
The article is paywalled but I wonder if the lack of profitability is Twitch&#x27;s inability to get users onto their own advertising platform from which they get a cut. It seems streamers get a lot of revenue from sponsorships and partnerships outside Twitch and have pressured Twitch to keep it that way. [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;technology-65834521" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;technology-65834521</a>
nouryqt10 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;GP6GW" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;GP6GW</a>
评论 #41099874 未加载