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Why are religious teens happier than their secular peers?

28 点作者 johntfella10 个月前

16 条评论

compumetrika10 个月前
I've directly experienced this in my own life. Moved during the pandemic to be near family, and coincidentally that is a much more religious and conservative community. Many people I am around daily are much more unplugged from online discussion and much more directly involved in face to face lives. There is a subset who are more "online" and tend to be more stressed/anxious.
spamizbad10 个月前
Probably more community than secular peers.
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jemmyw10 个月前
As with any question like this, you have to ask, are religious people happier or do happier people choose religion? A person who is unhappy might be so because they are questioning why things are the way they are. They are not happy to believe, so to speak. You can&#x27;t make them happy by making them religious.<p>I&#x27;ve lived most of my life in countries that are much more secular than the US (and briefly in the US). In majority secular places I think I observe a reversal, although I don&#x27;t know about teens, just in general. It&#x27;s like being outside the social norm is the issue.
xhkkffbf10 个月前
Most major religions have been around for a thousand or more years. Given evolutionary pressures, it&#x27;s clear that they must have gotten a few things during that time or they wouldn&#x27;t be here.<p>While people like to dump on religions and argue about them for many reasons, it&#x27;s kind of foolish to assume that they&#x27;re horrible or incapable of helping people.
kkfx10 个月前
Hem, sorry, no. Religious teens might SAY they are happy but they are not, and anyone who know some religious community have witnessed that very well. Aside religion is one of the ancient form of propaganda, so do not protect young, corrupt them.<p>At various point in time many christians believers became &quot;basic christians&quot; rejecting all communities&#x2F;church calling them for what effectively they are: PR agencies with big or less big financial and influential power. In other world toxic and oppressive environments. I&#x27;ve no doubt many part of them are genuine people, but that&#x27;s is the mean, the org, and the psychological substance.
monero-xmr10 个月前
Religious people of all ages, in all countries, are more likely to be happier than the non-religious. Conservatives are also happier than progressives. It’s a widely understood and reported phenomena that has been discussed repeatedly in major publications for years.<p>Here’s but one study of a multitude <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;short-reads&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;31&#x2F;are-religious-people-happier-healthier-our-new-global-study-explores-this-question&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;short-reads&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;31&#x2F;are-relig...</a>
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hindsightbias10 个月前
We should always optimize for bliss, and I doubt Xtian philosophies can reach Madrasa levels of QoL<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-024-65677-y" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41598-024-65677-y</a>
PeterWhittaker10 个月前
“I wish I was a believer I&#x27;d spend less time in being sad”<p>North Winds Blowing, The Stranglers
oooyay10 个月前
Folks here are bleeding over from the post on community being a contributing factor. Ezra Klein has pointed at device access, but I&#x27;d like to take Ezra&#x27;s theory one step further: hope.<p>Conservatives culturally live in a mind castle of sorts. Very few things actually shake them because their core set of beliefs, by their very virtue, do not really shift at all. Political conservatives also believe heavily in <i>incremental progress</i>. They don&#x27;t actually care if they get all of what they want <i>now</i>. Even if they don&#x27;t obtain it they&#x27;ll obtain the ultimate prize for having contributed and that&#x27;s all that really matters to them.<p>Liberals on the other hand, and non-believers, are subject to science which by its very nature is often contradictory in the short term to ascertain longer term truths. Living year to year in that reality can leave your beliefs shook in one way or another. Liberalism is also not nearly as homogenous as conservativism when it comes to core beliefs; in fact, things change all the time and sometimes at a pace too fast for even liberals to keep up with. To liberals the future isn&#x27;t filled with hope. Our planks have to do with equality, climate change, distribution of resources, and a variety of topics that are huge. Doubly so, were impatient and don&#x27;t have a somewhat cynical view of incrementalism because the stakes are here and now on Earth, not in some after life.
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JudasGoat10 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;NO9o6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;NO9o6</a>
7e10 个月前
Because they live in a fantasy world of make believe where good things will eventually come to them.
thagerty10 个月前
Check back with them in 20 years.
AnimalMuppet10 个月前
Right here on HN, I&#x27;ve been seeing over and over that climate change is going to wreck everything physically, that AI is going to wreck everything politically, and that everything is wrecked politically. (Hard to argue with the last one.) And so we see discussion of deaths from alcohol, drugs, and suicide, and how they are &quot;deaths of despair&quot;. We&#x27;ve talked about this a whole bunch of times over the last few years.<p>Now imagine believing that there was Someone there - not just the impersonal universe. And that Someone knew who you were, and cared about you, and wanted to be in relationship with you instead of just at a distance. And that Someone was in control of what happened, and could be trusted with the future.<p>Yeah, you don&#x27;t believe it. You think it&#x27;s brain-dead. You think it&#x27;s against all the evidence. But can&#x27;t you see that, if you did believe it, it would change <i>everything</i> about how you viewed the world, and your place in it, and your situation? Can&#x27;t you see how you wouldn&#x27;t be in despair any more, even in the same circumstances?<p><i>That&#x27;s</i> why religious teens are happier than their secular peers.<p>(And, as spamizbad pointed out, the community aspects help too.)
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bankcust0838510 个月前
Community and irrational exuberance.
techostritch10 个月前
As a deeply liberal-secular person I find this research very interesting and I don’t really combat it, I think trying to find more community and meaning in life is definetly a path towards happiness ala Victor Frankl, and one big precept of a more existential approach to life is that it in fact does make you less happy. Like one dispute I have with a very spiritual associate of mine, is that I think there’s virtue in trying to sit with it all and accept that there are no answers.<p>At its root I wonder - is there a halfway point between I have all the answers and will try to remake the world into that image, and staring into the abyss.<p>I mean, part of becoming an adult is accepting the fact that it’s not all happiness all the time.
downrightmike10 个月前
Did they check with all those kids that the catholic church had to make payments to?
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