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Is this the slow decline of the Apple "cult"?

39 点作者 goranmoomin9 个月前

15 条评论

bustling-noose9 个月前
I don’t think revenue is a good measure of ‘decline’. People have saturated their lives with devices over the last 4-5 years and iPads iPhones and watches and EarPods have reached a saturation point. So the revenues will not grow linearly anymore cause new owners of watches and EarPods are not getting added. There is no new device like the Apple watch to enter the ecosystem so revenues have stayed somewhat flat. This is if you think the cult is relevant to revenue.<p>From what I know everyone and their dog on social media uses an iPhone Pro. Given the high usage and addiction of social media, the iPhone that shows 3 cameras on the back is still the gold standard of status. People thought (including me) that raising the price of the flagship to 1000$+ might affect sales but it didn’t. As long as Apple maintains its luxury, people will buy it no matter what you say about them. The problem is that unlike LVMH where margins are insane, Apple is still a tech company thriving on innovation. So unlike other luxury brands, Apple stock may not do as well as others.<p>But if you think the cult is buying something else now, just open Instagram and count how many people have selfies with a pixel and thousands of followers (who are the part of cult). You’ll have a tough time spotting one.
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wwilim9 个月前
I feel it&#x27;s partly because the devices are now actually far superior to competitors thanks to M series processors, so owning a MacBook is no longer just a matter of being hip.<p>This means many Apple buyers are now people who just want a bloody powerful laptop, rather than people drawn to the tasteful design who would be more likely to preach about it. The power buyers don&#x27;t need to preach, every chart tells you what they would. The Macbook Pro has become the Top Right Messi of the laptop game.
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BolexNOLA9 个月前
Maybe this is just me but I feel like the age of endless praise&#x2F;camping out for Apple products ended a solid decade ago.
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limuc9 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;qAWvK" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;qAWvK</a> as site is not&#x2F;very slowly loading.
fluoridation9 个月前
&gt;Is the goal to turn into Microsoft, because this is how you turn into Microsoft.<p>Duh. Well, indirectly. The goal of both is to grow, like gray goo, or cancer. Anything else is a secondary concern that can be sacrificed for the goal. No company wants to be the underdog, perpetually struggling for second place.
mgarfias9 个月前
I’m just waiting for an alternative. I’d happy run a *nix on my desktop if I didn’t have to use X11 and could have real apps to run.<p>I’m about to be forced to use windows for the first time in 20 years and I’m seriously dreading it.<p>At the same time, I’m sick of apples stranglehold on the iPhone. It’s my phone, let me do what I want with it.<p>I’ve tried using android stuff a bit (bought a Samsung tablet for obd2 stuff), and it left me wanting to scream and throw things.<p>I miss my 04-08 Mac experience that didn’t suck. And don’t tell me the new stuff is more reliable - the other day I had to power cycle my m1max mbp as the keyboard stopped responding.
firesteelrain9 个月前
Apple appears to not innovated significantly beyond the Job’s original iPhone release. It’s small incremental improvements to the platform however not the major shakeup that occurred with the original iPhone.<p>It’s not a slow decline of the cult. People still get excited for new iPhone releases. It’s just so prolific now and you can get it from places like Target that no need to camp out anymore.<p>It’s basically become an appliance.
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davidmurdoch9 个月前
The article makes claims that Apple has changed, which is why there is a decline in fanboy praise for the company. But from the outside it just looks like business as usual.
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ryandvm9 个月前
As an Android fan, I have to give Apple credit. They provide solid top-tier hardware and software, which Google does as well with the Pixel, but Apple also combines it with strong arm tactics to keep people inside the wall. No dirty trick is off limits, from ecosystem lock-in to green-icon bullying at school - anything to get you to buy an iPhone.<p>Google doesn&#x27;t really try to do this - mostly out of sheer incompetence I think.<p>Look at Google&#x27;s messaging strategy. They have the most popular web browser in the world by far. They could easily have bundled a decent, lightweight chat client into Chrome and they would have 80% worldwide installed base. Instead their messaging strategy has literally become an industry joke.
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baal80spam9 个月前
We have a law for such articles, and the answer is: &quot;No.&quot;.
jacknews9 个月前
&quot;The problems all stem from the business end of the company&quot;<p>Seems to be a recurring theme these days.
beardyw9 个月前
Flagged - to no one&#x27;s surprise.
m_a_g9 个月前
Hug of death?
znpy9 个月前
&gt; Apple’s always been a bit different, and they’ve often been the scrappy underdog who was barely surviving.<p>Uhm... No? Apple has had a hard time in the nineties, but now it&#x27;s been doing just fine for the last 15+ years (and in the last ten years it&#x27;s been doing awesomely).<p>Uh, this is why (in my opinion) apple fans are considered part of a cult: they have strong opinions that have no connections to reality.
josefresco9 个月前
&quot;Rent-seeking Apple&quot; might destroy the goodwill created by previously positive positions like: &quot;Privacy Focused Apple&quot; and before that &quot;User Experience Apple&quot;. Once the iCloud tax starts climbing Apple might become the new AT&amp;T in the eyes of the consumer.