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You Will Never Retire

37 点作者 robtherobber9 个月前

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mrsilencedogood9 个月前
This is going to come off as tangential at first, but I am beginning to think that the next great human progress will not be engineering, or science, but philosophy.<p>We discovered nuclear fission in the 40s. We can fix atmospheric nitrogen into industrial fertilizer. We communicate at the speed of light. We can manufacture things so absurdly complicated and with such small tolerances that we can do everything from microelectronics to spaceflight. We can and do literally farm in deserts and we do alchemy as a power source!<p>So how is it that our primary means of collaboration dates to antiquity and potentially into prehistory? Here I specifically mean the mechanism of prices and currency exchange.<p>We refined it somewhat at various points - we layered powerful abstractions onto it with the invention of the corporation and securitized ownership thereof; we gave it a macro structure with capitalism and free markets, to socialize the concepts we wanted people to engage with. But at the end of the day, the system works because it is the most accepting of reality - it is a system that reinforces itself when people are driven to try to exploit it, instead of falling apart. Indeed, it reinforces almost too well - most of our intervention into it takes the form of &quot;nudging&quot; local minima - breaking up monopolies, enforcing minimum qualities, etc.<p>So, we have this system that has been fundamentally the same. And to my perception, we have two ways out: we either Star Trek our way to complete abundance, to where the cost of everything is ~0 so everyone might as well be given enough. Or - we decide that even though it is not free, it is time that everyone has enough. And given we&#x27;ve managed to literally perform alchemy and actual biblical miracles of agriculture, and we&#x27;re still not really much closer, I hesitate to say that anything but the conversion of energy to highly-structured matter - a la Star Trek replicators - will make notable progress here.<p>So I think that the next big step forward will be philosophical. We need to take this urge that the article mentions - where people see the 90 year old working in the street, say &quot;this is wrong&quot;, and correct it - and we need to make it so that people believe and live it axiomatically. We need to say - even though I cannot see them, and they may not look like me or think like me, they should have enough.
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iamleppert9 个月前
The fact is the true nature of humanity revolves around the concept of survival. Survival of the fittest. Having largely defeated and subjugated nature on this world, we are no longer in competition with the natural world. Rather, we are in competition with one another. The strong, be it physically or mentally, will always overpower the weak. Our role on this world is not to live in peace with one another, it is to conquer and conquest over our fellow man.<p>Anyone who disputes this is lying to themselves about the true and ruthless nature of humanity, and disrespects the mechanisms that have allowed themselves to exist and ask that very question.<p>This is your permission to do whatever you can get away with in the quest to amass as much of whatever is the current measurement of conquest. Be it money, fame, or power. It will never be enough, but that&#x27;s not your place to ask why. Only how you will conquest.
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nine_zeros9 个月前
When a larger share of per-capita money production goes to EXISTING asset owners - aka people&#x2F;corporations who did not do any work to earn that money - this is going to be the outcome.<p>There is only one way out now - wealth tax to fund social security.
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Rhapso9 个月前
Eventually, automation leads to labor surplus when the value of human labor is lower than the cost of human living.<p>This problem will be resolved, by our action or inaction as a society. We just need to decide the corpse&#x2F;profit ratio we want.
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anovikov9 个月前
A counterpoint is that if the government was doing this instead, it meant government buying stocks collectively with the money taken from people as payroll taxes, then distribute the proceeds. But it will mean government owning means of production, and on enormous scale - almost a textbook definition of communism. It was both politically impassable, and also will inevitably end up in a massive disaster if actually tried, will make entire economy into a charade of manipulation. People will start companies with a specific goal of getting &quot;on the list&quot; of those government will buy, instead of a goal of making money, as a result giving birth to monsters. Huge fortunes will be made by tricksters teaching people how to build these companies for them to appear more plausible, and these tricksters will be same people who will make the decisions, through the revolving door system. It will be hard to do any macroeconomic regulation because say, increasing interest rates will mean the government directly loses money because stocks fall. Every conservative politician will love to see the huge mess a decision like this would produce, will be the best proof of Republican &quot;government is bad&quot; philosophy.<p>For someone born in the Soviet Union, this idea sticks so bad there&#x27;s not a slightest inclination to try it out.<p>Other approach is &quot;the government should directly own the productive assets it creates itself, not buys on the market&quot;, but that will create an even bigger conflict of interest (government will have to make sure those pesky private businesses don&#x27;t compete with it), it will be truly a resurrection of the Soviet Union, and a wall will soon be needed to keep people in, rather than to keep them out. Been there, done that. No need to repeat the same to arrive to the same result again.
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