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Why OpenStack and Kata Containers are both seeing a resurgence of adoption

79 点作者 CrankyBear9 个月前

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dfgdfg345454569 个月前
As my organisation migrates everything over to AWS I do find myself questioning what the costs will look like when it is all done and we are completely locked in. AWS/Google/Microsoft cloud services put you in the position of an almost completely captive customer. What large corporation would ever sign up to that?
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jpgvm9 个月前
Personally I have seen a massive surge of interest in running on bare metal again. Largely due to AI workloads, wanting to own GPUs and run them on Infiniband or RoCE fabrics.<p>Hopefully this trend out-lives AI hype bubble. I much prefer real hardware, a whole bunch of problems are made easier by &quot;Dell will sell me a box with 1TB of RAM for $reasonable&quot;. Same goes for effectively lossless data centre networking at 200gbps+, actual BGP, etc.
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tacker20009 个月前
I know of a large company that are moving their whole VMWare setup (thousands of VMs) to an OpenShift solution, now that VMWare has raised prices significantly, and I’m sure they’re not the only ones.
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KaiserPro9 个月前
Open stack is great if someone else runs it for you, otherwise its a massive painful kick in the bollocks. The only advantage is that the documentation that exists is likely to be in date still. At least they&#x27;ve finally ditch ceph and gluster as a storage back end.<p>It seems the permissions schema has improved in the last 15 years as well.<p>However, I&#x27;m pretty sure there are very few questions to which openstack is the answer.<p>Most people just want an orchestration layer, and a storage control system. Everything else is just complexity that really comes to bite you later on. as soon as a system starts to have strong opinions about networking (I&#x27;m looking at you K8s) then things turn to shit pretty quick.
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louwrentius9 个月前
I still love the idea of running your own infra om your own metal.<p>It’s out of reach for most orgs because good operations people are hard to find. You need people with all the infra and networking knowledge, and the capability to automate processes end-to-end.<p>I still see operations people using Ansible as a better shell script, without proper structure, without understanding the fundamentals of such a tool. Without understanding the process they are trying to automate.<p>So in some sense what you really want is a proper software developer that is also willing to focus on boring infrastructure topics. Topics that are just an api-call in the cloud. Who in their right mind wants this :-)<p>The tools and technology isn’t the issue. Can you find the right people who want to build the right operations platform for you, one that assures security, availability and also is awesome to work with for developers?
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itohihiyt9 个月前
And so it swings full circle.
yencabulator9 个月前
The Edera product this PR-as-news article is pushing seems to have very naive marketing:<p>&quot;zero risk&quot;<p>&quot;Container escapes? Impossible.&quot; &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;edera-dev&#x2F;">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;edera-dev&#x2F;</a>&gt;.<p>&quot;Hypervisors haven&#x27;t been reimagined for nearly two decades&quot; and apparently using Xen counts as reimagining.<p>What the hell even is a &quot;single-host hypervisor&quot;. As opposed to what?
switch0079 个月前
Sometimes I wonder if openstack is secretly funded by the AWS marketing department<p>It&#x27;s a world of pain that leaves you crying for AWS&#x2F;GCP or even Azure
oldpersonintx9 个月前
&gt; First, companies are switching from public hyper-clouds, such as Amazon Web Services (AWS), Azure, and Google Cloud, to private clouds.<p>who?<p>&gt; Michael Dell, Dell CEO, quoted Barclay&#x27;s CIO Survey 2024: &quot;83% of enterprises plan to move workloads back to private cloud from public cloud.&quot;<p>...and then later realize they don&#x27;t have the time, skill, or money, and even if they did, its just commodity infrastructure and no longer a value proposition for the company any more than their office space or janitorial service<p>&gt; Another reason companies are shifting to OpenStack<p>again, who????<p>these articles continue to just be wishful thinking. most people who have dealt with openstack in the last decade have likely been on a deprovisioning project. I&#x27;ve personally witnessed it purged from two tech companies because the ops people were low-skill button-pushers who couldn&#x27;t and wouldn&#x27;t deal with its complexity, so ultimately the companies just threw in the towel<p>maybe 5% of ops people I deal with have the experience and skills to build infra from the data center rack up to something useful. ops in general has been subject to a major skills decline in the last decade or so, AWS is in absolutely no danger<p>ask your ops team how many of them have ever set foot in a data center. fifteen years ago, probably 50%. now? around 0%
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