Oxygene: A modern language built on the foundation of Object Pascal

Ouch, those prices though. It's 100% their right to choose how they want to distribute their language, of course! But there's no plausible scenario where I'd ever write with a proprietary language implementation, let alone one I had to pay for. There are too many free/Free options to voluntarily lock myself in for any of the kinds of things I ever work on.

For those wondering why are they charging per developer etc. This case study helped me understand what they actually are selling: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remobjects.com&#x2F;elements&#x2F;casestudies&#x2F;curacaoweather.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remobjects.com&#x2F;elements&#x2F;casestudies&#x2F;curacaoweath...</a><p>Their landing page and generally content on their page is terrible but maybe nobody stumbles on their site randomly looking for this. People are reacting to their pricing after seeing the title but I dont think that&#x27;s what they are selling...

I am at once compelled by the sweet tone of Pascal and recoil in site of mercantile connivance. In truth I do honor the allegiance to business practices of old. I did in my time employ compilers from cheerful Centerline and stout StepStone. Yet it is the winter of our commercial compiler discontent. Though I tremble at the visage of Wirth&#x27;s ghost, redime te captum quam quas minimo.<p>(sorry, been reading Shakespeare recently.)<p>It&#x27;s nice to see there&#x27;s still a market for a commercial compilers, I&#x27;m not sure there&#x27;s enough benefit for my work to justify the price tag. Would love to hear from people using it what they think of it. And it reminds me a bit of Modula-3, or at least where Modula-3 seemed to be headed.

They also have their own swift implementation apparently? That&#x27;s the first time I see an alternative implementation of it. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remobjects.com&#x2F;elements&#x2F;silver&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.remobjects.com&#x2F;elements&#x2F;silver&#x2F;</a>

Well, <i>that</i> was under the radar. I used Object Pascal back in the MacApp days and figured it had disappeared forever. And Microsoft is allegedly a customer? I’d like to hear more about that…

Won&#x27;t it make more sense to go with the Embarcadero implementation of Object Pascal (Delphi)? That is available free for users as long as you make less than USD 5000&#x2F;year using that tool

It’s worth noting that this is commercial software that costs money - even for academic purposes - but I assume that the access to support and the full-time support engineers it funds is worth is for some business customers.

Too bad there&#x27;s no details on the &quot;modern&quot; features vs Object Pascal. Or are they hidden?<p>Anyway, seems interesting. I gather that their business model is to find large institutional customers looking for a way to scale out their legacy code (Delphi, etc.) to new platforms?<p>I wonder where they find developers willing to learn their tools when the entry price to learn is non-free. Also, a closed ecosystem nowadays means depriving the devs of the rich ecosystems that have grown around open languages. Which can be a good thing... (looking at npm, ahem)

I have often thought that there&#x27;s scope for a descendant of Object Pascal to take on a new name to coalesce all of the new ideas while freeing up the namespace occupied by legacy features.<p>This is not it.

I especially like the ensure old syntax, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.elementscompiler.com&#x2F;Concepts&#x2F;ClassContracts&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.elementscompiler.com&#x2F;Concepts&#x2F;ClassContracts&#x2F;</a><p><pre><code> ensure Count = old Count +1 : &#x27;MyObject: Count logic error&#x27;; </code></pre> Never seen that before, but smartpascal also added it. Edit: blush, Bertrand Meyer introduced that already. Pretty

Has anyone tried how large are the binaries built with it, e.g. a Windows exe with a single window and label displaying just hello world? (release mode, 64bit)

Photoshop was originally written in Object Pascal, then transpiled to C and then C++.<p>If Apple brings back the Macintosh Toolbox, I’ll get right on porting it back.

I would never develop software on top of a proprietary language that I have no control over. The only way I would consider using a closed source language would be if there was a source available contract with some sort of &quot;you own it perpetually if we ever stop supporting it&quot; clause. (Who knows, maybe they have that)

not really a language but more of a Delphi competition. Delphi is still alive and kicking so there&#x27;s a market for RAD for sure.

&gt; Download Trial<p>Rest in peace.