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Scientific publishing has been gamed to advance scientists’ careers

33 点作者 DanielleMolloy8 个月前

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DanielleMolloy8 个月前
Here is the link to the full text:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iai.tv&#x2F;articles&#x2F;science-publishing-is-a-multimillion-dollar-ponzi-scheme-auid-2953?_auid=2020" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;iai.tv&#x2F;articles&#x2F;science-publishing-is-a-multimillion...</a><p>@dang: Could you edit this, please?
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westurner8 个月前
Grants, Impact Factor, can&#x27;t publish or apply for a grant because I don&#x27;t have university affiliation, Exclusivity agreement, you can only upload the preprint to ArXiV because you paid a journal an application fee and they&#x27;re going to take all of the returns from distributing your work with threaded comments.<p>What other industry must pay an application fee to give an exclusive to a government-granted Open Access research study?<p>You should tell them that they must pay you.<p>(And that they must host [linked] data, and reproducible containers, and code.)
orev8 个月前
Science works on long (often generational) timelines. Eventually the charlatans are weeded out, even if it’s after they’re dead. It’s a messy process but you have to dig through dirt to find the gems.
jfengel8 个月前
I can&#x27;t find the actual text either, but boy, &quot;squatters of the broken records of ideological mantras&quot; rubs me the wrong way.<p>I hear it all the time, from cranks who have absolutely no idea what they&#x27;re talking about. They first spew gibberish, then vitriol that people won&#x27;t devote time to translating the gibberish. And they certainly won&#x27;t listen, with the insuperable defense that any explanation from the scientific orthodoxy means you&#x27;re part of the cabal.<p>Yeah, there is a hell of a lot wrong with publishing. But it&#x27;s not a &quot;Ponzi scheme&quot; because ultimately progress does get made. There is an underlying value that a Ponzi scheme lacks by definition.<p>And we can&#x27;t fix the real problems without a serious statement of the problem. Science is fundamentally hard. There are a lot of people doing a lot of work and nobody has time for more than a miniscule fraction. Keeping up is impossible, even when everyone is working in good faith, which not everyone is.<p>Don&#x27;t trivialize the problem by saying &quot;the real solution is to listen to me and ignore everyone else&quot;.
stavros8 个月前
Is the article somewhere? I just see a summary.
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GeekyBear8 个月前
Publish or perish is the root cause behind the flood of fraudulent studies seen in recent years.
jmclnx8 个月前
Sadly, these days, seems every business eventually evolves into a ponzi scheme.<p>It is like the theory about evolution to Crab like creatures over the eons, but for businesses :)
octopod128 个月前
the title can be restated as &quot;outcomes are produced by incentives&quot; and applies to anything including: college admissions, climbing the corporate ladder etc. any system is gamed by its participants, and so, the system design is critical to ensure whatever the system wants to sustain.<p>the design of disincentives (or punishments) is harder - coz you cannot jail a scientist for poor me-too publications, or papers that self-claim &quot;an innovative approach to this or that&quot;<p>Just as in corporate orgs, or societies, the culture that is fostered plays a critical role. Once rot takes over, it is hard to eradicate.
drewcoo8 个月前
Science is captured by money? Blame the scientists.<p>Never ever blame the monied interests. That would be anti-capitalist.
daft_pink8 个月前
I only see the summary but I am not sure the word ponzi is appropriate.
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