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Sam Altman Goes Full Emperor

119 点作者 _17 个月前

10 条评论

AlexandrB7 个月前
Interesting that Worldcoin[1,2] isn&#x27;t mentioned (at least in the non-paywalled portion). It&#x27;s another example of world-spanning ambition masquerading as egalitarianism while riding the latest tech trend.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;worldcoin.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;worldcoin.org</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Worldcoin" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Worldcoin</a>
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jon3097 个月前
Save yourself the read. This article started strong, but never ended up making a logical point about why Sam is dangerous.
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loceng7 个月前
It appears the establishment and &quot;big tech&quot; - not all but those toeing the same line, are happy for him to be there, and protective of him.
preommr7 个月前
&gt; His boundless ambition is putting AI, and the world, on a dangerous path.<p>Has the narrative really become that Sam Altman is single-handedly responsible for the massive leap in AI?<p>I really don&#x27;t think that Altman is even close to being in the top 5 worrying techbros. At best, he enabled OpenAI researchers to get their work done 1-5 years sooner.<p>This stuff was going to happen with or without Altman.<p>The advancements to come will happen with or without Altman.<p>These kinds of articles are alarmist nonsense.
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apsec1127 个月前
Is there a non-paywalled version?
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lackoftactics7 个月前
The rest of the article is behind a paywall. I&#x27;m still on the fence about Sam Altman, and as someone who lives in Poland rather than Silicon Valley, it&#x27;s difficult to form a solid judgment about him. It&#x27;s much easier for me to see through Elon Musk&#x27;s facade in his interviews, where he only plays at being an expert. Altman has some mystique surrounding him, though I think his frequent appearances on podcasts are ruining it. I sometimes wonder how he finds time to appear even on minor podcasts.
bbor7 个月前
Amazing article, thanks for posting! I don&#x27;t know this author, but they&#x27;ve definitely got a solid understanding of the relevant facts, IMO&#x2F;AFAICT. That said:<p><pre><code> Altman could now get equity in OpenAI—around $10 billion worth </code></pre> He claimed to employees last week that he won&#x27;t be following through on this. See: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;09&#x2F;26&#x2F;openais-sam-altman-tells-employees-he-didnt-get-giant-equity-stake.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;09&#x2F;26&#x2F;openais-sam-altman-tells-emp...</a> Do I believe he won&#x27;t pull a &quot;whoops who knows&quot; or a &quot;it&#x27;s not <i>giant</i> equity stake, just a big one&quot;? Meh. But it&#x27;s at least in doubt now.<p><pre><code> What’s scary about him isn’t that he’s good at getting rich (he’s a billionaire even without any OpenAI equity) </code></pre> This surprised me when I first learned it, but appearently it&#x27;s true. Wikipedia has this (uncited!!) language on the topic: &quot;Sam Altman has recently expanded his investment portfolio to include stakes in over 400 companies, valued at around <i>$2.8 billion</i>. Some of these investments intersect with companies doing business with OpenAI, which has raised questions about potential conflicts of interest, though Altman and OpenAI maintain that these are managed transparently.&quot;<p>Friendly reminder that a billion is a thousand times a million... $2.8B is not a number to glance past like it&#x27;s normal. According to Statista, he&#x27;s one of ~10,000 in the entire world: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.statista.com&#x2F;statistics&#x2F;621447&#x2F;billionaires-total-wealth-worldwide&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.statista.com&#x2F;statistics&#x2F;621447&#x2F;billionaires-tota...</a><p><pre><code> Though Altman (wisely) wouldn’t use this term for it, I’d say it boils down to accelerationism </code></pre> Eh, that term has a lot of loaded meaning among academic circles (or just hacker &#x2F; e&#x2F;acc ones...) that I don&#x27;t think Altman openly subscribes to -- especially if you include its founder Nick Land, who&#x27;s now a &quot;Hyper-fascist&quot; with some appearent brain damage. Long story short it involves burning down the current system, not just building a new one. See this amazing Guardian article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2017&#x2F;may&#x2F;11&#x2F;accelerationism-how-a-fringe-philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2017&#x2F;may&#x2F;11&#x2F;accelerationis...</a><p>I&#x27;d call Altman simply... arrogant. I don&#x27;t think he subscribes to any academic trend, simply because he doesn&#x27;t seem interested in reading any academia. Case in point is his recent decision to try to be the one to name the new era of human development, a task for which he chose &quot;Intelligence Age&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia.samaltman.com&#x2F;);" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia.samaltman.com&#x2F;);</a> that&#x27;s some serious confidence, at the very least.<p>IMO he is a normal MBA-type who&#x27;s been caught up in something that feels world-changing, and he&#x27;s at the point where any amount of deceit or malice is worth it to keep his influence over that. In this way, I see him as a much more well-spoken Elon Musk; they both are true believers in the power of AGI, and their defining purpose is to be credited with the benefits it&#x27;ll bring about.<p>As I said in an old post on Altman: made-in-house bias is strongest when the house is your own skull.<p>[ETA in response to a comment below, b&#x2F;c deleting a long paragraph feels like abandoning a project!]:<p>Fair enough! I myself have limited working experience with executives and have never met Altman, so I&#x27;m going off his blog posts mostly, along with the negative personality pieces that have popped up over the past year (e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;OpenAI&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1804u5y&#x2F;former_openai_employee_describes_sam_altman_as&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;OpenAI&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1804u5y&#x2F;former_open...</a> , <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mashable.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;open-ai-board-why-fired-sam-altman-helen-toner-podcast" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mashable.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;open-ai-board-why-fired-sam-alt...</a> , <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techspot.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;103176-lies-psychological-abuse-former-openai-board-members-reasons.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techspot.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;103176-lies-psychological-abus...</a> ). I agree that he&#x27;s quintessential Silicon Valley rather than the traditional image of &quot;MBA type&quot;--a white man in a fancy suit in New York or Chicago, mostly--but he seems to otherwise fit the bill. Namely:<p>- Personal overconfidence&#x2F;hubris, as I discuss above.<p>- Tendency to overpromise his organization&#x27;s capabilities, as a rule. &quot;Move fast and break things&quot; type vibes.<p>- Prioritizing growth&#x2F;scale over other concerns -- I think the switch to for-profit makes this objectively accurate.<p>- A noted aversion to transparency in general, as best embodied by OpenAI&#x27;s approach to opensource.<p>- A history of dodging accountability, namely in the ouster fiasco.<p>- A charismatic but potentially manipulative leadership style (the main gist of this article).
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dottjt7 个月前
lol post flagged
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whimsicalism7 个月前
I miss the era when the chattering class didn&#x27;t know anything about tech. So nice to not be the product of think-pieces and in the ire of NYT readers.<p>The funniest bit is that the previous villains -- financiers and oil barons, etc. etc. - haven&#x27;t gone away. I don&#x27;t understand why the high-powered critics have completely pivoted to hating on tech. Say what you will about Google, OpenAI, etc. but we&#x27;re not funding mass killings in the Niger river delta or foreclosing on people&#x27;s homes.
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miki1232117 个月前
It&#x27;s worth keeping in mind that Altman likely neither wants nor needs the equity in Open AI, but investors are forcing him to take some to align incentives.[1][2][3]<p>[1] [see the Open AI section] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;S9rwj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;S9rwj</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;0To6q" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;0To6q</a> [3] [and the Open AI section again] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;ejoOx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;ejoOx</a>
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