Dell's sudden 5-day RTO order leaves parents scrambling to find childcare

&gt; &quot;To harness this energy and grow skills, we believe our sales teams need to be together in the office,&quot; the memo added. &quot;Additionally, our data shows that sales teams are more productive when onsite.&quot;<p>I wonder if they shared the &quot;data&quot; in the memo. Otherwise, this should be considered a magical myth that the company&#x27;s leadership simply believes.

&gt; Johnny C. Taylor Jr., the president of the Society for Human Resource Management, told BI that as more organizations have called workers back to the office, it&#x27;s become clear that many employees didn&#x27;t heed warnings that remote work was not here to stay.<p>It&#x27;s not the employees fault if they trusted the company wouldn&#x27;t screw up home office, all these companies made employees believe they could have better working conditions, until they forced everyone to go back to the office.<p>I don&#x27;t blame the employees but the employer for making broken promises and manipulating their employees into thinking the company is better than the competitors.

It&#x27;s not clear to me how you can be a full-time employee and be doing full-time child care. I understand the need for schedule flexibility, but if going back to the office means you need to find child care it seems to suggest some of these people weren&#x27;t really working full time on those days.

This is just downsizing while suppressing negative PR&#x2F;investor fear. I&#x27;d caution anyone who invests or any of these companies that RTO, you should treat this like any other layoff from the perspective of company performance -- because it is.

I know people that moved to other states during the pandemic that were told they could WFH forever. Unless remote work is in the contract, don&#x27;t believe anything a company tells you.

Register your kid as a pet (emotional support animal), and you can bring it anywhere. Kids should be included in office life! If dog parents can bring their child to work, why not human parents?!<p>Edit: Dell is a pet friendly company, bringing animals to office is employment perk, and should not be a problem! There are no limitations on species, and humans are technically animals!!!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jobs.dell.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;dell-pets-scruffy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jobs.dell.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;dell-pets-scruffy</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dell.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;flexible-work-solutions-can-make-every-day-pets-at-work-day&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dell.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;blog&#x2F;flexible-work-solutions-can-...</a>

Commuting sucks, remote has enormous benefits yada yada, however: The problems (childcare, commuting, etc) that the employees present as huge obstacles, were there before covid and people were managing. The c suites will not break a sweat over these.<p>On the essence of the policy, this is a quiet layoff, same as Amazon&#x27;s (which further threatens managers with layoffs if they do not enforce the 5day rto for their reports).

I wonder how many new businesses will spring up in secondary markets because too many people took the pandemic as a chance to move somewhere with a better cost of living, and now they&#x27;re being orphaned by RTO plans.

This is really going to unsettle the living situations of a bunch of people, but of course they really important to get everybody in the office so Dell can harness that creative energy and make… more mediocre laptops.

someone probably realized that people could work half as much as home and still get the same amount done as before. this pissed them off so much, they want everyone sitting in the office all day, doing the same amount

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This one I do not understand. How could you do any meaningful work in Home Office without child care? I mean did they help their kids doing their home work while on job? That was ok during the covid craze but otherwise a no go.

So funny thing about those unions…<p>I am hoping that this will lead people to, prior to accepting a job (deal with the devil, more often than not), look into the pedigree of the company and evaluate based on how people within are treated if they want to work for such a place. In other words, I doubt that Dell was sunshine and roses until now. Or in other words: when someone you don’t like is screwed over, be prepared for that next someone to be you.

If you need childcare to return to the office, we&#x27;re you really, wholly working from home?

&quot;RTO&quot; honestly is better characterized as &quot;RTO+H&quot; because there is no expectation that people will _stop_ working at home after RTO, just that they will have the same amount of work to do and now fewer waking hours to do it.

See america? That&#x27;s why you need unions!

So are parents to blame for RTO then? I’m starting to wonder as the child-free folks I know are producing more WFH than they were pre pandemic.