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When railroad dining cars were the height of luxury

85 点作者 teleforce7 个月前

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Ichthypresbyter7 个月前
In my experience in Europe, dining cars seem to be more of a Central (and maybe also Eastern) European thing.<p>Benelux doesn&#x27;t have dining cars at all, and in France and Italy the best you can usually hope for is a cafe-car that will give you coffee or at most a microwaved snack to take back to your seat.<p>On the other hand, the German, Swiss and Polish railways still have services with true dining cars where you can sit at a table, a waiter will take your order, then bring you a good-quality hot meal served on a real plate with real silverware (and at least in Poland, actually cooked to order on the train).<p>Oddly, in some cases eating the dining-car food at your seat is seen as a more premium experience. On Swiss trains, only standard-class passengers need to use the dining car- a member of staff walks through the first class section taking food orders which are then brought to your seat. In my experience of Poland&#x27;s flagship high-speed EIP services, there are no chairs in the restaurant car- you can either stand and eat at one of the small bar-type tables, or order your food to be brought to your seat.
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TacticalCoder7 个月前
Late 70s, early 80s in Europe we&#x27;d take the train for 1200 km (about 750 miles). First my parents and grandparents would <i>drive</i> their cars onto the train, then we&#x27;d go inside a cabin. There were 1st class and 2nd class cars&#x2F;cabins. Then for dinner we&#x27;d go eat in the restaurant car.<p>This wasn&#x27;t a luxury thing that said: we had a Lada (btw shittiest car brand ever and the Lada Niva, the 4x4, is the shittiest, scariest, piece of turd of a 4x4 ever made: this thing will flip over at 12 mph in S-turn no question asked and if you think Lada made good cars you know jack shit about cars). OK, ok, now I digress: maybe it&#x27;s because my parents had a Lada and it was an utter piece of junk that I now drive a high-end luxury car: surely a seven years long psychoanalysis would figure that one out.<p>So yup, loading the Lada on the train and eating in the restaurant car.<p>The people doing the same around that time were typical middle class (and I don&#x27;t dispute TFA saying that before that it used to be the height of luxury).
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Jedd7 个月前
In 2013 we did the overnight train from Paris (~10pm) to Barcelona (~10am) - this was a recently revived option, and I think it only lasted a few years in operation - presumably the economics just weren&#x27;t there, unfortunately.<p>The &#x27;mini-twin&#x27; option, that included a sophisticated dining experience - perhaps not quite as the 1883 experience described in TFA, but <i>really good</i>.<p>We were escorted on board, shown our room, with two big comfy seats, politely encouraged to drop our bags and head down to the restaurant car, while they converted the room to sleep-mode. (Similar process, in reverse, in the morning.)<p>Cost was £289.00 for two people - flights would have been a bit cheaper but a whole lot more bother, and as usual once you factor in transport + accom + food for that period, flights get even less compelling.<p>Can recommend these more sedate options while travelling, but perhaps that&#x27;s an increasingly rare luxury.
jerven7 个月前
I must say when ever I have the chance I do really enjoy the Cff&#x2F;sbb dining cars on the swiss network. A real sense of luxury to see the Alps go by drinking a ok coffee or decent beer in a nice environment. Feels nicer than bussiness class on a plane.
dbcurtis7 个月前
In the USA the Great Northern continued to run its own commissaries even after most other railroads turned dining car operations over to the Pullman company. During the 1930’s, the Empire Builder famously would slow going over a particular bridge in western Montana so that the kitchen crew could “hoop up” a package of freshly caught trout. I find that factoid unreasonably charming.
zokier7 个月前
Lot of transportation dining was luxurious at the first half of 20th century. Ocean liners were of course famous for their dinners, afaik zeppelins had at least decent food available, and airplane travel had some glamour too.
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simonw7 个月前
Sacramento in California has a truly fantastic railway museum and one of the exhibits is an old dining car you can walk through where each table is set with branded crockery from a different historic American rail operator.<p>Here are a couple of photos: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;simonw&#x2F;b077396a0c27b32312d2a18eebd492a4?permalink_comment_id=5234654#gistcomment-5234654" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;simonw&#x2F;b077396a0c27b32312d2a18eebd49...</a>
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FuriouslyAdrift7 个月前
There are dining cars on Amtrack. Not the hight of luxury but not bad on a long trip...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NTGywoIytSw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NTGywoIytSw</a>
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scrlk7 个月前
Great Western Railway in the UK still operates a Pullman dining car on select services between London Paddington and Plymouth or Swansea: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwr.com&#x2F;travelling-with-us&#x2F;pullman-dining" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gwr.com&#x2F;travelling-with-us&#x2F;pullman-dining</a>
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wodenokoto7 个月前
After watching the old murder on the orient express I too was fascinated by the dining aspect and looked at what was available today to relive the experience the movie depicted (minus the murder, hopefully)<p>The quoted price was in the 10s of thousands of euros for a week.<p>Really puts it in to perspective how luxurious those things were.
silisili7 个月前
Today we have trains of nothing but luxury(ish) dining - I remember <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kydinnertrain.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kydinnertrain.com&#x2F;</a> , I assume others exist?<p>Though obviously not the same, as these are meant solely for dining and sight-seeing, not actual travel.
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andai7 个月前
I read recently that there used to be three classes in trains (at least in the Netherlands) until the 1940s, when the nicest one was removed.<p>That seems like a shame! Although, the worst one used to have no windows and steam blowing into the compartment, so I guess the situation has improved somewhat.
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o0-0o7 个月前
Continental in Quebec. Go there. Keep them in business. They have Steak Diane, and a bunch of other Continental classics cooked table side. Not to be missed.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;restaurantlecontinental.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;restaurantlecontinental.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;</a><p>One of the best restaurants on the planet, and zero pretentiousness. ~_*
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debian37 个月前
If anyone is interested, you can look up Rovos Rails. They have dining car like shown on the articles. Truly unique experience and even better for those of you who want to disconnect, as there is no cellphone service for most of the journey.
fsckboy7 个月前
&quot;when wealthy people rode trains, they were accommodated&quot;
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