#BoycottApple trending on Google plus due to Galaxy Nexus ban

Something about Koh's overwhelming bias for Apple seems really suspicious. It's one thing to preeminently ban sales of product A for reason X, but to also ban sales of product B for reason Y where products A and B have the same parent, and where reasons X and Y are completely unrelated? Something is wrong with this picture.<p>What else could be going on? Maybe I have a cynical view of humanity, but I spent a few minutes digging to see if I could find anything on requirements for District Judges to release tax returns (as they are essentially public officials, right?). Couldn't find anything on that, but generic salary data is available: <a href="http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/js_3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/js_3.html</a><p>$175K is probably rather low when you're used to working in the high-stakes world of patent litigation.<p>It'll be interesting to investigate this with more depth. ( Another interesting / related read: <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/27/local/me-judges-pay27" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/27/local/me-judges-pay2...</a> )

Wow that live stream update is a nightmare - I keep trying to read what's happened and things get pushed down almost immediately. A clickable (or w/e) "18 new posts" would make it usable.

This is really a non-issue. Tech companies sue each other and get import bans all the time. The victim eventually moves some UI widget three pixels to the right and the import ban is lifted and life moves on. The only real consequence of all this is that lawyers on both sides make a lot of money. Google is not going to stop making Android and Apple is not going to stop making iOS. Both will just advance more slowly because money is being spent on lawyering rather than programming.

I'm wondering what kind of institutional respect for IP and spirit of innovation would lead Samsung to whip up this UI?<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxYZXjXozc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxYZXjXozc</a><p>Sure, one can argue that Samsung and Apple both look to a common ancestor for their ideas, but I think Samsung is more insidious than people are willing to admit here.

Why is such a trend on Google+ relevant?<p>As much as I would like to embrace Google+ as a Facebook alternative, Google+ has still a very limited audience – and, of course, a very Android-focus audience …<p>EDIT: Downvoting my comment just because it isn't enthusiastic on Google+? Comm'on!

I don't understand why #BoycottSomething should be used for protests. Boycotting an influential company is extremely hard.<p>I'm sure that there are more rational ways to protest, instead of trying to boycott a company that actually delivers some of the best products. No company is perfect and Apple's case is just a tip of an iceberg in the whole industry.<p><a href="http://www.dontmakemesteal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dontmakemesteal.com/</a> is a good example. We know the movie industry sometimes uses intellectual property rights against their customers but there are good ways to fight back without disregarding the merit of the entire thing.

More interesting than a bunch of chatter on Google Plus is this article on Forbes, "Could Steve Jobs actually win his thermonuclear war?":<p><a href="http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/30/could-steve-jobs-actually-win-his-thermonuclear-war/" rel="nofollow">http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/30/could-steve-jobs-actu...</a><p>I don't think this will be the last of Apple's actions against Android. When Steve said they'd "patented the hell out of" the iPhone, I got the sense he really wasn't joking.

The people that want to boycott Apple don't even buy Apple products. So good luck with that. And besides that, you should know that Google makes a lot more money from iOS than from Android ($10 average from each iOS device vs $2 from each Android device), so if Apple stop selling iOS devices Google would be harmed in their income.<p>At least Apple use legitimate patents, unlike the use of FRAND patents of Samsung and Motorola. Nobody is going to make a #BoycottMotorola for using FRAND patents to ban Xbox 360 in countries like Germany?

The South Korean government (owned by Samsung) has been blocking and putting up barriers to foreign phones for years, including delaying the introduction of the iPhone to South Korea, to give Samsung and co. a chance to develop competitors.<p>I'm glad to see the US government blocking a South Korean product for once, if that is indeed what is happening.

What's the background on <a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aR5Kiv6yGJ8/T_AgxfYEw_I/AAAAAAABKMM/32LqpvZrqY8/s682/aLGOQ.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aR5Kiv6yGJ8/T_AgxfYEw_I/A...</a> ?<p>(It's the first time I've seen this comparison.)

Wow, so people who want to buy Samsung instead of Apple anyway are going to boycott Apple? Apple is quaking in their boots, I'm sure.

Not surprising. If it was trending on Twitter that would be news.

Perhaps Samsung will consider not slavishly copying Apple design for their next products?

The day that there is a #BoycottGoogle+ trending on Facebook/Twitter will be the day Google+ can claim to be truly mainstream!

What will the immediate consequences be, if the injunction actually goes into effect? I have a ton of questions about this, but basically:<p>- Will Samsung/Google just tweak the software to get around the patent, and continue shipping?<p>- Could Samsung ship the device sans-Software, and have a US based facility install the OS to get around this?<p>- What is the appeal process that Google/Samsung can take? That is, when Samsung files the appeal, how long does it take to be reviewed and considered? Can Apple appeal an appeal?<p>- What is the meaning of this 2014 court date?<p>- What defines the "Galaxy Nexus"? Could they change the colors on it, or tweak the case, and call it a different device to continue shipping?<p>Of course, any answers are basically speculation at this point, but mostly I want to get a feel for some of the possible avenues that the parties have to take.

Scrolling through the results, I see:<p>- 50% Star Wars imagery (iPhone as stormtrooper once, but usually that ugly green Android guy using a lightsaber on something representing Apple)<p>- 10% Lord of the Rings imagery<p>- Many posts that “support the cause” without delineating any sort of argument<p>- No one disputing that Samsung ripped off Apple’s designs or patents<p>Interesting.

" I won't bother getting into how the judge who ruled on this injunction is a former lawyer from an intellectual property firm who went after companies for profit."<p><a href="https://plus.google.com/101209004947484771936/posts/XcZFPu8qwpe" rel="nofollow">https://plus.google.com/101209004947484771936/posts/XcZFPu8q...</a>

"Well it looks like Team Android have conceded a penalty, but the players are crying foul play saying Team Apple dived. Some team Android fans are also attempting to stage a pitch invasion to protest, but are easily held back. Team Apple scores! The game continues..."

Google would do the same if they were in Apple's position. So boycotting does not make sense.

I find it ironic that people use Google+ to protest against this, as Vic Gundotra has alienated me a lot more with his stupid policies than Apple ever has. #BoycottGoogle+

Our patent system is insane, granted. But in this case, at least Apple, ya’ know, actually invented some of the stuff they are using against Android.

Just started <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/boycottapple/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reddit.com/r/boycottapple/</a><p>It's about time.

Now also trending on twitter:<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4187672" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4187672</a>

In other news, #boycottApple helped Google+ realize that they need to design at least one feature correctly... If I am viewing a livestream, don't move the box that I am reading from. Goodness gracious.

Is this somehow started by or otherwise related to Joe Wilcox's boycott?<p><a href="http://betanews.com/2012/06/29/apples-injunction-stopping-galaxy-nexus-sales-is-shameful/" rel="nofollow">http://betanews.com/2012/06/29/apples-injunction-stopping-ga...</a><p><a href="http://betanews.com/2012/06/29/preliminary-injunction-bars-galaxy-nexus-but-apple-is-a-loser-for-winning/" rel="nofollow">http://betanews.com/2012/06/29/preliminary-injunction-bars-g...</a><p><a href="http://betanews.com/2012/06/09/im-boycotting-apple/" rel="nofollow">http://betanews.com/2012/06/09/im-boycotting-apple/</a>

You folks have it all wrong. If anything, more product import blocks need to happen so people will start realizing how busted patents are.

Has Apple actually posted the cash required to enforce the ban? Until confirmed, this is merely doublethink.

Funny, I thought the place to be right now would be "boycott Facebook". Where can I go to find that?

I didn't know Google+ had trends?

What's the source of this news?

Holy shit, it's trending on Twitter? Well that's going to change the world!

This is fighting stupid with stupid. Oh I know, let's make an online petition to let Apple know how upset we are. Between that and a trending G+ topic, surely they'll change their ways.<p>So that we're clear, since reactionary fanboy downvotes are popular here, I have no desire to part with my beloved Galaxy Nexus or new Macbook Air. I just find it completely inane that this is frontpage HN news.

In other news: Katie and Tom are getting a divorce ...<p>Thank you google plus.

I'm a huge fan of Google, Apple, Linux, Xbox, and Kindle. Apparently, I need to start insulting and belittling myself or something...

Now its trending on Twitter (at least it shows up on my twitter home page trend as number 7, but these trends change very very quickly). Its still trending on Google plus after 2.5 days. This is going pretty viral. I so wish that this will put some sense into judge and Apple to not ban Galaxy Nexus - a unlock hardware phone which is made for developers, hackers and has pure AOSP experience.

A recent development on this matter...Samsung has moved to ask the court to stay the injunction<p><a href="http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-demands-apples-galaxy-nexus-ban-be-frozen-01236623/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-demands-apples-galaxy-nexus...</a>

Another very contentious patent granted to Apple <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4186731" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4186731</a>

The Times They Are a-Changin'

Trending on Google+?<p>So all 5 Google+ users posted it?