To someone who spends probably way too much time listening to dharma talks, reading Zen books, and meditating, it's always a bit jarring to see these paeans to walking and running that describe how this kind of exercise is a great way to just be ... with your thoughts!<p>Sometimes the experience of running is used to describe zazen. Then the focus is on the state of flow you can get into, which I think mmurph211 is describing here, where actually thoughts too fade out. Just running -- just feet touching the ground and lifting again, intense breathing, wind & rain, the sting of muscle fatigue, getting tired.<p>I actually think a lot of people misunderstand why they like walking and running. It's not only that you're free to daydream and let thoughts wander freely. It's also a sensuously immersive ritual that dampens the habitual buzzing-like-a-fridge chatter, focuses the mind in real-time, lets you come a bit closer to forgetting yourself.