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Show HN: HN Update – Hourly news broadcast of top HN stories

644 点作者 yunusabd7 个月前
I feel like it was inevitable, with the recent buzz around NotebookLM. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done yet.

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Guest90812398127 个月前
Lots of positive feedback here, but after a quick listen, I&#x27;m not a fan. To summarize my thoughts...<p>1. The experience just feels too sluggish. For example, I opened the HN homepage, skimmed all of the headlines, read the comments on the top post, and it probably took about 30 seconds. I was done, feeling like I got all the information from HN that I needed, with the intention of checking for new posts later in the day. This tool took an entire minute to brief me about a single post.<p>2. It&#x27;s not very practical. Usually 1 or 2 posts catch my attention on the HN homepage each day. This tool is most likely going to give me information about the wrong posts. You could improve this with some type of algorithm that learns what information I listen to and what I skip, but it&#x27;s not ideal. Or, perhaps I could click the headlines I&#x27;m interested in, and a custom audio summary is generated.<p>3. Lastly, I think it removes the human experience of HN. I like to read exactly what people are posting. Everyone is unique, and it&#x27;s interesting to see how people interact, along with their choice of words and tone. Erasing all of that and listening to a robotic summary just sucks the soul straight out of the community. It reduces the connection to the people here, which I think is the best aspect of the site.<p>Thanks for sharing though, it&#x27;s interesting to see this idea brought to fruition.
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andai7 个月前
Brilliant idea. I think this has real value as well: as I get older, I find that I have less energy for reading, but I also notice I often miss really cool stuff that was briefly on the front of HN.<p>I like that it summarizes the comments too. There are often real gems buried in there. (I assume you&#x27;re only taking a few top ones?)<p>I think a great improvement could be made with personalization. Most of what&#x27;s on the front page isn&#x27;t personally relevant to me, and there&#x27;s a lot of cool stuff on the new submissions page that never catches on. So it would be nice if a system could learn what kind of stories I personally respond to, and show me (a summary of?) those -- even if they aren&#x27;t currently trending.<p>Last.fm came out 20 years ago (proving you don&#x27;t even need AI for amazing recommender systems), but it seems personalizing your experience never really caught on. (Yeah, the YouTube algorithm kind of does this, but you unfortunately have no real control over it.)
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tristenharr7 个月前
Would be cool to create embeddings for historical HN posts, and then use a users favorite posts to personalize the post selection by averaging the embedding vectors for a users favorite posts then doing a cosine similarity search to select stories most likely to be of interest to a user.<p>Although it would be even better to use a users like history, but I’m not sure if&#x2F;how those can be accessed.<p>Speaking of, I’m curious how other folks use embeddings. I know you can average multiple embeddings together, but is anyone else doing other translations and having success? Thinking of King - Man + Women = Queen, It seems a lot of the time I see questions being directly used as inputs for semantic search&#x2F;RAG. I wonder if it might make sense to create a large set of question-answer pairs and embed them and then determine the average translation to move from “question space” to “answer space”, then when you embed questions you apply the translation on the embedding to move it into “answer space” before performing RAG, or maybe this would just add too much noise?
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n2d47 个月前
Hah! Here&#x27;s what it had to say about itself this hour:<p>&gt; In a more self-referential turn, we examine the launch of HN Update itself. This initiative aims to provide hourly news broadcasts, summarizing top stories from Hacker News. While listeners appreciate the concept of curated news, there are concerns about the accuracy of the summaries and the potential for bias in representation. Community discussion suggests that while the value of such a service is evident, trust in the accuracy of the content remains a critical issue.
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throwaway06657 个月前
Pretty neat but it seems to make stuff up. It took a meta comment from this post[1] about the website formatting and suggested the community was worried the C++ memory safety proposal would make code hard to read on mobile. It is hard to trust the other summaries after hearing that.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41899828">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=41899828</a>
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redbell7 个月前
Pretty interesting project. I have a special, yet weird, emotional attachment to these HN-based projects because they act like <i>extensions</i> or <i>add-ons</i> that could improve HN in one dimension.<p>While I don&#x27;t feel like using this tool when I sit in front of my computer or when starting <i>doom scrolling</i> on my phone, I certainly would like to use it when I need to <i>quickly</i> check HN while being busy.<p>Some quick feedback:<p>1. First, regarding the UI&#x2F;UX:<p><pre><code> - The title and subtitle don&#x27;t tell much about the app. - In the audio track, while you can see the progress of the playing audio, it doesn&#x27;t show the total time nor the current time. - It would be useful to highlight the audio track into segments, each one representing a story. - It would make sense to mention how many stories are being summarized (seems to be 5 right now). </code></pre> 2. For a better use case, I believe it would make more sense to have this tool as a mobile app or a PWA to easily access it even from your car&#x27;s infotainment system while driving.<p>3. Tightly linked to (2), having this tool as a mobile app and making it available as a <i>widget</i>, with a <i>Play</i> button, would reduce the number <i>taps</i> needed to play the broadcast.<p>I hope this serves as a <i>constructive critic</i>.
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hammock7 个月前
Next step- create an HNN news network with chyrons and AI news anchors that you can have running on the TVs in your office 24&#x2F;7 the way banks have CNBC and Bloomberg News running
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ag87 个月前
I started listening to it after this very submission became #1 on HN, so it was very meta to listen to it talk about how it might be making stuff up...<p>Great project!
seungwoolee5187 个月前
Wow... Really great.<p>Can you add some historical archive to listen n hours ago (or morning briefing like) summary as a feature?
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olup7 个月前
I did <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radio-hn.pages.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radio-hn.pages.dev&#x2F;</a> last year in the same idea, just once per day. Posted it somewhere here at the time.
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TekMol7 个月前
Why is it that some people can accept - even like - music behind a voice that tells something?<p>I strongly dislike it. It makes it harder to listen to the voice.<p>Am I the only one?
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pugio7 个月前
Love it. Reminds me of the also useful Hacker News Recap from wondercraft but it looks like that stopped updating as of October 1st (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wondercraft.ai&#x2F;our-podcasts&#x2F;hacker-news">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wondercraft.ai&#x2F;our-podcasts&#x2F;hacker-news</a>).<p>Would be great to have a playback speed button as well. (I can&#x27;t sit through any audio at 1x.)
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yunusabd7 个月前
Did anyone notice it reporting about itself now? This will definitely go into the archive :)
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kc-chris7 个月前
This strikes a balance with one&#x27;s use of time and &quot;fear of missing out&quot; (FOMO). Thank you, yunusabd, for creating this service. As a side note, I&#x27;ve been following HN headlines and comments for a very long time, but only just now created an account, just so that I could write this comment to express my thanks to you. On the subject of wishing for additional features: I agree with someone else who commented about how it would be nice to have some form of a daily summary, or maybe broken into three portions of summaries per day: morning, afternoon and evening. Additionally, those three portions would also (ideally) remain available and not be removed, so that a person might go back and review a particular range of times&#x2F;days. This would be much more practical to enable a person to be able to keep up with most of the developments, but without needing to check in once every hour.
mirrorchair017 个月前
This is really great stuff, love the added &quot;news-station&quot; type music! If something like this we&#x27;re to be monetized would there be any issues regarding copyright?
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wg07 个月前
Unrelated but reminds me of GTA V&#x27;s radio channels in cars. The news talking about what you just did.
neonsunset7 个月前
This is so good! I could use that mixed in together with a spotify station for modern Radio experience. I miss the days where you could just do something else and listen to the radio host. Streaming partially supplanted it but not to the same extent, sadly.
tarwich7 个月前
I&#x27;d love to see a list of the articles covered so as I&#x27;m listening I could jump to an article and get more data.
waldothedog7 个月前
Enjoyed this a lot! Particularly enjoyed the meta update about this thread. There are some neat suggestions here, but if this could come up on my podcast feed as-is I would listen to it.
personjerry7 个月前
&quot;First up a webgpu wifi simulator has emerged, although details remain sparse due to trouble extracting data from the linked resource&quot;<p>Sounds about right
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pjmq7 个月前
It was pretty cool to hear the broadcast reference this. 100% think it should be more concise and have a greater depth of personality.
mazzystar7 个月前
Last week I had a similar idea as you. I created a webpage called <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zeli.app" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zeli.app</a> that automatically helps you parse the content of posts from the HN homepage, rewrite the titles, and generate abstracts.<p>So, I ended up with these post fragments, and I tried feeding these title + abstract lists to Claude 3.5 Sonnet to string them together into a 5-minute English podcast, emphasizing on making these fragments flow cohesively.<p>Honestly, I wasn&#x27;t completely satisfied with the results because the topics switched too quickly, and each post only had 2-3 sentence introductions, making it sound less interesting.<p>Anyway, it was exciting to find someone with a similar idea as me, but I still think the lack of interesting content is the main issue.
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aanet7 个月前
Fantastic idea, good implementation. Very valuable and useful!<p>Do not listen to the chattering nabobs of negativity in the comments!<p>Your impl is valuable; gives a quick summary of top-n stories. Useful for somebody who dips in&#x2F;out of HN now and then. It may not be for everyone (indeed, as various commenters have suggested), but its useful for me. And it;s a great example of marrying AI-generated summary with podcast style quick 5-min summary. Just like listening to BBC news summary.<p>A few suggestions: - perhaps make it personalizable (based on HN user?) or atleast provide an option to summarize top 15 (or 10 or 20?) stories - offer a way to go beyond the first page of HN - offer a way to summarize the most-commented stories<p>Good job! Happy to contribute if its on Github
pan697 个月前
Nice. Would it be possible to add a link to the actual submission as it is being discussed?
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H127 个月前
I&#x27;d be interested in a podcast app that allows me to subscribe to written RSS content and uses AI to (transparently) convert them to audio podcasts.<p>The time&#x2F;attention it takes to engage with written content can be a barrier for me. The hands-free experience of listening to something is so convenient, I find I engage with audio far more often than written text.<p>The only major downside of audio is the challenges around notetaking, and recording the snippets of info I want to hold onto.
srik7 个月前
Neat! Personally hourly feels a bit much but a daily briefing that can fit inside a commute or on a short walk would be perfect. Might be the first ai podcast I&#x27;d subscribe to.
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nabaraz7 个月前
On a related note, what are some cheaper alternative to Open AI&#x27;s text to speech? Last I checked it came out to ~$9&#x2F;day for their text-to-speech.
synthoidzeta7 个月前
Really neat! How was the waveform visualization achieved?
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knowaveragejoe7 个月前
I like this idea a lot. Archived entries would be nice as others have suggested. It would also be nice to be able to control playback speed.
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frays7 个月前
Great idea! I&#x27;ve always wanted to catch up with tech news while walking&#x2F;driving, particularly from HN.
gigatexal7 个月前
I would like this except for it to be a daily podcast of the unique set of links and things that made it to the front page with more than 5 comments ordered by points and then comments and then have that read out to me with a summary of the comments. Now that. That would be amazing.
cchance7 个月前
Next step heygen avatar&#x27;s doing desk presentations with small videos overlayed to show the websites etc.
nostoneunturned7 个月前
Amazing, I would love to do a version of this for more niches. Any pointers on how you built this?
crossroadsguy7 个月前
Is there a way to filter out certain type of stories&#x2F;submissions?<p>Or is there any HN filter or web-reader (if any) that can help me do that? I know HN doesn&#x27;t do submission tags but still if something allows some kind of &quot;type&#x2F;kind&quot; hiding&#x2F;removal.
ugh1237 个月前
Can the speed slider support .1 increments? I&#x27;d prefer 1.2x :)<p>Also, it would be useful to have an index of Stories on the side for each segment and possibly locators within the horizontal audio segment where index&#x2F;story items are located.
bangaroo7 个月前
i think this is cool, i&#x27;m happy you did it... i really listen to podcasts for the hosts, though. i think the banter and the personality and the perspective are things that i really enjoy. getting to know people through what they choose to talk about or how they frame things is part of the whole charm.<p>if i want a fast rundown of HN, i&#x27;ll read HN. you did make me kind of crave a 15 minute weekdaily &quot;morning news&quot; style podcast with some tech journalists that runs down the most talked about HN posts, though.
Adachi917 个月前
Interesting project, I think it would be nice to also have a volume slider as well as a speed slider. I manually set the volume via wavesurfer.media.volume = 0.10; to keep from hurting my ears.
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cthellla7 个月前
its actually been done, but in slightly different manner<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;hninsights&#x2F;836?comment=441" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;hninsights&#x2F;836?comment=441</a>
graycat7 个月前
Sounds good. Listened to some of it -- good.<p>Suggestion, have better audio:<p>(1) Enunciate the words more clearly.<p>(2) To help with (1), slow down and speak fewer words per minute.<p>(3) At the end of a sentence, don&#x27;t drop voice volume and enunciation clarity.
kelsey987654317 个月前
Frankly this is super fantastic. Thank you. Any possibility to make this longer, and split it into sections with updates on previous stories at the end? I love this concept a lot.
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8organicbits7 个月前
&quot;although details remain sparse due to issues extracting content from the linked resource&quot;<p>Unfortunate that it adds stuff like this, which doesn&#x27;t seem helpful to the listener.
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digitcatphd7 个月前
This is probably the coolest use case I have seen of HN API
rstat17 个月前
Not sure this is something I&#x27;d regularly use just because I prefer reading the news to listening to it, but I still found it pretty cool.
devops0007 个月前
I see lots of generated content with AI, would be interested how much of this is actually listened by a real human after the first days of excitement.
jonahx7 个月前
The AI voice is good. What are you using to generate it?
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cylinder7147 个月前
Wow—this is indistinguishable from an NPR piece.
nilslice7 个月前
cool. and, a neat side effect of catching this late is that the HN Update broadcast I heard (labeled &quot;10&#x2F;20&#x2F;2024, 9:59:47 PM&quot;, assuming Pacific time) included &amp; described itself in the audio. at the time of writing, it&#x27;s a top story currently on the front page!
syntaxing7 个月前
This is awesome, I wish it did a rolling 8 hour instead that is updated once a hour if that makes sense.
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the_arun7 个月前
Fantastic idea! I really liked extracting meta information from Comments as well. Good luck!
ck27 个月前
vaguely related someone also made a Hacker News bot on Bluesky<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;newsycombinator.bsky.social" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;newsycombinator.bsky.social</a>
ProllyInfamous7 个月前
Can you make one of the playback speeds 1.25x (it jumps from 1.0x to 1.5x)?
alwinaugustin7 个月前
This is awesome. I like it
nurettin7 个月前
I wonder what it will do when it encounters a (year) postfix.
cengizhanbasak7 个月前
I would love to have a transcript of the generated podcast.
interestingsoup7 个月前
This is so neat. I been wanting to build something for HN and can&#x27;t believe I didn&#x27;t think of this. It was also cool too hear the update with a mention of HN Update as well considering it&#x27;s treanding! :)
Hashex1295427 个月前
Excellent Idea
Timwi7 个月前
I have two super nitpicky things to say.<p>1) The website is slightly wide on my phone, so it wiggles left and right when I scroll. I usually fix this by pinch-zooming out the tiny amount necessary to align it to my viewport width, but your website apparently suppresses zooming.<p>2) The AI announces itself as having the name “Jane Doe”. What&#x27;s the point in this? I know that American news with real anchors do this (having the anchor announce their own name), but this is not universal so it feels foreign to me. Since AIs don&#x27;t have names, it feels like this was shoehorned in just to sound like American commercial news.
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mvdtnz7 个月前
AI slop generator.
breck7 个月前
Fun stuff. It does feel like NotebookLM (and others) are hurtling us toward a future that seems inevitable: all content is public domain, and people consume it in many transformed ways.<p>Those that get ahead of the curve and make their content publicly available and semantically well structured will see their ideas thrive.<p>Here&#x27;s my user test: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.pub&#x2F;?try=https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;embed&#x2F;9e8b8d454ee14873883b4e5e1cca9579?sid=a73ce53c-bef9-4897-b72e-5b7eafa946e3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.pub&#x2F;?try=https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.loom.com&#x2F;embed&#x2F;9e8b8d454ee...</a>
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