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Machine conquest: Jules Verne's technocratic worldmaking

66 点作者 johntfella7 个月前

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WillAdams7 个月前
To help put all this in context, a member at the Mobileread forum read these books and commented on them:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mobileread.com&#x2F;forums&#x2F;showthread.php?t=340548" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mobileread.com&#x2F;forums&#x2F;showthread.php?t=340548</a><p>(annoyingly, my local libraries only had a few, and I still resent that when I was interested in French in high school that there weren&#x27;t any original texts available to me)<p>For a discussion of the difficulties of reading this in translation see: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usni.org&#x2F;press&#x2F;books&#x2F;20000-leagues-under-sea" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usni.org&#x2F;press&#x2F;books&#x2F;20000-leagues-under-sea</a> --- it would be great if all of these novels could be so treated&#x2F;updated.
KineticLensman7 个月前
The foreground message is quite blunt<p>&gt;&gt; Here, Verne was a narrator of global integration. His heroes were compelled by a quest to resist politics and oppose it: their triumphs relied on private sponsors, gentlemen’s clubs, scientific associations, millionaires – not governments. They ventured afar in spite of government, not because of it. Global order likewise rarely ever featured states, empires, or political actors. Private actors were the chief benefactors, beneficiaries, and interlocutors.<p>But I found this article useful for the perspectives on &#x27;worldmaking&#x27;. This helps to understand the elements in game dev (immersion) and speculative fiction (narrative transport) that make (or not) a successful game or book. Something that I find fascinating
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jhbadger7 个月前
This article seems to blame Verne for colonialism &quot;At the French Société de Géographie, of which Verne was a long-time member, as well as among imperialists across Europe, the Voyages became a casual frame of reference in justification of colonial expansion.&quot;, I don&#x27;t see how this fits with Verne&#x27;s most famous character, Captain Nemo. While his background was ambiguous in 20,000 Leagues, in The Mysterious Island it is established that he was an Indian who fought against colonialism in the failed 1857 rebellion and sees himself as the champion of the oppressed.
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Onavo7 个月前
&gt; <i>Here, Verne was a narrator of global integration. His heroes were compelled by a quest to resist politics and oppose it: their triumphs relied on private sponsors, gentlemen’s clubs, scientific associations, millionaires – not governments. They ventured afar in spite of government, not because of it. Global order likewise rarely ever featured states, empires, or political actors. Private actors were the chief benefactors, beneficiaries, and interlocutors.</i><p>So he was writing a story of 19th century trust fund kids and VC funded tech bros..
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thrance7 个月前
I think it&#x27;s concerning how a lot of people here seem to take offense at the fact the article underlines the predominantly white and masculine nature of Verne&#x27;s protagonists.<p>Should an analysis of Verne&#x27;s work refrain from pointing this out? Because it would be too &quot;woke&quot;?<p>Verne lived during the peak of the French colonial Empire. Whites were a minority in the total population of the Empire, racism was pretty much a state institution used to justify an ad hoc hierarchy of the peoples living in the colonies.<p>Seeing how Verne&#x27;s archetype of the adventurer was shaped by colonial imagery is relevant to understanding his work. I don&#x27;t know what more to tell you.
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