1 in 6 Companies Are Hesitant to Hire Recent College Graduates

They start the article with this:<p>&gt; Generation Z (Gen Z) has a reputation for being challenging to work with and difficult to manage.<p>If you do not compare the results with a similar poll for when other generations where entering the market, the article reads like an arbitrary roast on Gen Z.<p>I will not get fooled by their domain name!

I would also say that more than 1 in 6 companies don’t have the culture or resources to make college graduates successful - I’m more experienced with software engineers, but it takes significant time and effort from management and senior talent to make recent graduates set up for success. It’s less for other senior talent, but sometimes senior talent still needs significant help.<p>One good thing about most college graduates is that they can generally learn new things quickly, especially if they’re willing to put in some effort.

1&#x2F;3 are hesitant to hire older ppl.<p>Companies are not hesitant to hire only:<p>- 25 with 10y exp<p>- no kids<p>- no plans for family<p>- keen to unpaid overtime<p>- no vacations planned<p>- underpaid and happy<p>Kind of ppl. Who would have thought ?

The term slacker was invented for Gen X.<p>Complaints against self absorbed and lazy millennials have been an annoying trope for my entire professional life.<p>The ancient Greeks complained thier kids were disrespecting them.<p>I do enough work with new grads to feel comfortable declaring the kids are alright. Gen Z doesn’t feel different fundamentally from millennials to me. We’ve had good (mostly) and bad hires over time. College hires (really any early in career hires) have more variability over experienced hires because they may not belong in it profession they’ve chosen, but that’s been true over time.<p>The one really shocking number is the 6&#x2F;10 have fired a recent grad. Given how hard it is to get rid of someone generally that is a huge number.<p>FWIW, the last firing of a new hire I was remotely a part of involved a Gen x or elder millennial woman who could not behave appropriately at work and managed to document her inappropriate behavior on company IT assets.

This article is based on a online poll of 966 people with murky qualifications for having a meaningful opinion about what seem, at best, to be silly questions.<p>I could see this as a first step towards some more interesting work and data collection, but can&#x27;t imagine there is any actual signal here worth writing about.

Noting that these surveys reflect managers&#x27; attitudes towards Gen Z recent college graduates, not the actual traits of Gen Z recent college graduates.

It’s sorta like when I wanted to break into the market as a Linux sysadmin and all the opening positions required 3-5 years of experience. There’s no room to be a beginner and no training.

Those aren&#x27;t shocking numbers, I think. Certainly not without a baseline.

I could easily believe that the culture of gaming everything (including interview &quot;prep&quot;) would lead to problems being useful in a company that&#x27;s not just going through the motions; however...<p>&gt; <i>Nearly two-thirds (65%) of hiring managers surveyed believe that recent college graduates are entitled, and 63% think they get offended too easily.</i><p>This line sounds to me like 2&#x2F;3 the survey respondents might be at least as much of a problem as many new-grad candidates allegedly are.<p>This line is so glaring, that I wonder whether it was written specifically for social media engagement&#x2F;enragement.

I wonder how much of this has to do with Covid interrupting a lot of recent grads’ time in college and forcing a large percentage of their courses to be online for a time<p>It seems pretty obvious to me that the quality of both teaching and assessment plummeted during this time, so I suspect that it’s even harder than usual to trust things like a transcript to see what an applicant really knows

I will add my experience. I graduated with a CS degree from a well known state school a few months ago, I have been applying to so many jobs I lost count, but after being ghosted to even entry level jobs I have pretty much given up on my CS dreams… why should I basically work myself to death for a field that seems like it doesn’t even care about me? Note I had two internship-style experiences while in school, making up the significant portion of my resume. I’m happier working at a restaurant and enjoying my free time for the moment, touching computers on the side but more importantly pursuing my non-computer interests. This won’t work forever as I plan to have children but for now I am existing and happy doing other things. and i am putting a lot of my free time in to convicing my peers still in school that their degree won’t be worth sh!t when they graduate

This article and the audience reading it would be better served if this paragraph were earlier in the article, maybe even first or second:<p>“ It can be easy for managers to buy into typical stereotypes of Gen Z and dismiss them entirely; however, companies have an equal responsibility to prepare recent graduates for their particular workplace and give them the best chance to succeed. By understanding the challenges of Gen Z workers, companies can take a more proactive approach by implementing formal employee onboarding programs that clearly outline company culture and expectations. Paring recent grads with mentors in the company can also pay huge dividends as that can provide Gen Z workers with the guidance, feedback, and support for them to succeed.”<p>My first impression of the article was that the author was trying to say “Gen Z is bad&#x2F;worse than other generations.” As many other commenters pointed out, the article itself does not present enough evidence to support that claim. What I realized after reading the comments and then re-reading the article is that the primary argument is actually that companies need to target these specific areas to ensure that new graduates are successful at their companies.<p>This article also suffers from a headline that doesn’t match the content in terms of key information.

Yup.. we forced everyone to take on massive debt and then gave everyone a college degree.. tada, they don’t mean anything

Does the article mention if the 1 in 6 is actually a change vs previous years&#x2F;generations? I didn’t see anything.

If 5 in 6 companies have no hesitation about hiring recent college grads, that seems fine.

I guess we all know the problem: the money they might save the company on salary is nothing compared to the money they could cost you in every other way.<p>The chance of hiring a genius is tiny.<p>So, hope someone else performs that experiment for you.

If companies want experience... they should bring back proper apprenticeships instead of forcing people to squeeze in internships between studying impractical things.

Is college actually adding value, or just filtering? If it&#x27;s more the later, then more degrees mean that they&#x27;re worth less.

This article is the equivalent of &quot;avocado toast&quot; for millennials.

To me this sounds typical. I seem to remember people saying similar things about millennials 15 years ago. Would be curious to see a comparison.

Maybe we should add some more classes and another 10-20k on top of what we charge them already to fix the problem. Surely that will work.

New grads are a lot of work to train

GenZ&#x27;s are barely surviving, even those who work hard, even in lcol areas like mine. Rent is crazy high, ownership of everything is virtually inaccessible, salaries are low, being at age under 25 years is equal to having a criminal record for cases like car rent, etc etc. They just don&#x27;t feel like they owe anything to the system. That creates vicious cycle: companies despise genz&#x27;s, genz&#x27;s do bare minimum, rinse and repeat.<p>We need to lift them up somehow, they are not temporary visitors, they are our own children that the country will be handed over in 10-20 years.

What country is this for? I see a lot of hiring of new graduates in krakow and Hyderabad.

This is nothing new, that is what happens in recession. It will adjust in a year.

The trend of prolonging adolescence bleeds over to employment. It feels like You aren’t a full employee until 28 years old with a graduate degree.<p>And I am skeptical of claims that this is due to increasing specialization and more training. It’s just more hoops to differentiate yourself, and lower hiring risk.

This does seem to matter much. We can assume that those are companies on the lower end of the pay distribution. It&#x27;s not like you need a degree to wok at a McDonald&#x27;s restaurant, to do landscaping, or to drive a bus.<p><i>More Than Half of Hiring Managers Say Recent Grads Are Unprepared for the Workforce</i><p>yeah, because non-grads fare so much better in this regard?

&gt;Nearly half (46%) of hiring managers believe that college graduates should definitely take office etiquette training<p>...<p>&gt;63% of hiring managers surveyed believe that recent college graduates get offended too easily.<p>What would this etiquette training entail, exactly? How to endure being mistreated?<p>&gt;Recent college graduates interviewing for their first job should take the initiative to thoroughly research the company they are interviewing for. Doing the research and sharing your perspective in the interview shows that you have a genuine interest in the company and are committed to being a part of what they do.<p>I&#x27;m here to make money. I thoroughly research and have a genuine interest in companies that pay well. Market forces working as intended.

17%, that is hardly a story.

In other news, 83% of companies are happy to hire recent college grads.<p>That number seems relatively high to me.