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Why ghosts wear clothes or white sheets

114 点作者 samizdis7 个月前

28 条评论

wrp7 个月前
I've only read lightly on the historical literature of ghosts, but I think TFA has some basic misconceptions. Through most of history, ghost sightings appeared to be of regular people, with the witness only realizing later that it was a ghost. The conception of ghosts having ethereal appearance appears to have become widespread in the late 19th century.
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Izkata7 个月前
There's another theory I've heard that goes more into what ghosts are, that isn't in the article: They're not spirits, but more like an imprint on reality. This would also explain why so many just repeat the same actions over and over, and to some extent not just clothes but other things that appear in a ghost-like form they'd interact with. The one missing part of this theory is, it should be possible to create such an imprint with someone who is still alive.
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cesarb7 个月前
If ghosts are the souls of deceased people, unless they were nudists, wouldn&#x27;t they prefer to wear clothes similar to the ones they used when they were alive?<p>That is, instead of &quot;ghost-seers dress the ghost&quot;, it&#x27;s the ghost that dresses itself. In fact, that whole paragraph even makes sense once flipped that way:<p>&quot;[...] ghosts dress themselves, automatically, through unconscious processes. And so we see a ghost in its usual dress because that is the mental picture the ghost has of itself, and this choice of garment is most likely to inspire recognition.&quot;
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anotherhue7 个月前
Easier to do optical illusions &#x2F; alpha blends with white clothes too, so I suspect that tech furtherd the practice.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pepper&#x27;s_ghost" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Pepper&#x27;s_ghost</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Alpha_compositing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Alpha_compositing</a>
sfink7 个月前
Why is the question about clothes? Why not ask why ghosts usually appear wearing skin? Or flesh? I guess these days in common depictions, clothes &gt; skeleton &gt; peeled &gt; nude in terms of frequency. And what about age, or state of injury? It seems more commonly reported that ghosts do not exhibit their fatal injuries, though again it &quot;happens&quot;. Or the big question: why should anything be visible at all?<p>If a ghost is meant to be associated with a spirit or soul, there&#x27;s no particular reason for them to have any form or be visible at all. But as an exercise in worldbuilding, they <i>can</i> be, and their visual appearance can give all kinds of fascinating clues about their previous existence or the viewers&#x27;. I&#x27;d rather speculate about <i>that</i>.
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GistNoesis7 个月前
The ghost phenomenon is all about information.<p>When a system has a lot of complexity, it needs a lot of computational resources to be simulated accurately.<p>When suddenly this complexity is not needed anymore, because the system got &quot;simplified&quot; suddenly. The pockets of available computation diffuse slowly into the environment.<p>The analog for the scientific person here is like your adaptive grid in the simulation was locally in high resolution because it was needed by the physical process, and suddenly the physical process doesn&#x27;t need it anymore but the simulation grid stays in high resolution.<p>When some other high complexity process comes nearby (like another rich soul), it benefits from this increased resolution which usually allows him unconsciously to run his computational wetware in higher gear, like in a form of mildly induced schizophrenia, vivid dreams, or hallucinations.<p>Brains as general information analyzing devices can perceive the shape of this echo from the past, decoding from the faint ripples the stone that impacted the water.<p>The mythology of absorbing the essence from the passed is varied across time and places, ranging from soul capturing gems, the fighting to survive against the erosion of time like in Highlander accumulating the energy of your rivals by eating their brain.<p>Looking at it only as a physical process (&quot;real&quot;) will make you miss it. It has to be seen through the lens of the ethereal plane. Information is conserved, but details can be compressed more or less. Degrees of freedom accumulated or used are different things.
JohnFen7 个月前
I always thought the &quot;white sheet&quot; thing was just about representing funeral wrapping. I found it interesting that the topic goes much deeper than that.
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quietbritishjim7 个月前
I thought the point of the white sheet trope was that the ghost (whether clothed or not) is invisible, and so they throw a real physical sheet over themselves so they can be seen at all. Although, a ghost that&#x27;s visible but naked would be just as good justification.
Ekaros7 个月前
Might dust coverings be also part of this? Not that those are used here, but them being used in some abandoned or less frequented locations with slight movements of air could explain some imaginery. Peeking from windows for example and seeing objects covered in sheets.
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swayvil7 个月前
My small experience with seeing a ghost was that it appeared out of a mist. The white sheet could be a figurative way of portraying that. But there was a face too, and that stood out most starkly. And the gaze, when it fell on me, was electrically frightening.
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evanjrowley7 个月前
Ghost sightings can cover a wide range of clothes and that is generally because ghosts wear whatever they wore when their mortal form died. The concept of ghosts dressed in white gained prevalence at a time and place when white linens were rapidly becoming common for the average person. The industrial revolution increased the supply of white linen clothes, also white linen bedding, both at homes and in hospitals. Ghost stories gained popularity during this era, which was also a time of growing world population and growing deaths in densely populated areas. This intersection is why ghostly appearances very much fit the description of a nightgown-wearing tuberculosis patient. During the Victorian-era in Great Britain, the medical field was advancing rapidly, so a keener awareness of life and death coincided with customary dress&#x2F;fashion of the time to produce stereotypical images of ghosts and ghouls.
slavboj7 个月前
The white sheet alludes to a burial shroud.
backtoyoujim7 个月前
Intellectually the leap to believing in ghosts at all is longer than the mere stutter step to believing then in ghosts&#x27; apparel, ghastly accoutrements, and ethereal monocles.<p>But surely an identity would need to projected onto a ghost to transform it from an unknown haunting in a sheet into a known phantasm recognized by its victim.<p>Like dimensional digital projectors from our soul or collective consciences onto the sheet to create a ghost seems to be the idea.
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Cerpicio7 个月前
Great. After reading that headline my subconsciousness is going to put a whole new weird spin on my nightmares.
Aloha7 个月前
All the times an apparition has appeared to me, they were dressed as people.<p>I just somehow <i>knew</i> they were a spirit.<p>Its happened a half a dozen times or so for me, since I was a small child.
4dregress7 个月前
I always wondered what’s their energy source?<p>Also when people see them that means photons have had to bounce of them and into the observers eyes. The same goes for the sounds they make, they need to move the air molecules for sound to travel.<p>Or could it be that it all just happens in the observers mind?<p>But that doesn’t account for poltergeists.
binarysneaker7 个月前
Any qualified psychologists in the house?
pvaldes7 个月前
Because this is the color of the natural phenomenon that started the idea of ghosts, a pale white form floating in the dark in total silence seen out of the corner of the eye... a barn owl.<p>That lead us to a more interesting question, why barn owls are not black?
dxs7 个月前
&quot;You&#x27;re an adorable little ghost...&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jimbenton.tumblr.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;764044329102852096" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jimbenton.tumblr.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;764044329102852096</a>
crznp7 个月前
Of course ghosts wouldn&#x27;t appear naked, we can&#x27;t see beyond the veil
iamthejuan7 个月前
I got an experienced seeing one, at around 8 p.m. at the roof just above a coffin during wake. What I noticed that there is no seams on her white robe suggesting it is not made by human.
swayvil7 个月前
Ever see that movie &quot;The Sentinel&quot; (1977)? Ghosts and&#x2F;or demons scurrying out of Hell. Lots of nude ghosts there. White eyes. Scary.
photochemsyn7 个月前
The Japanese ghost stories recorded by Lafcadio Hearn in the late 19th century are different:<p>&gt; &quot;For the face was the face of a woman long dead, and the fingers caressing were fingers of naked bone, and of the body below the waist there was not anything: it melted off into thinnest trailing shadow. Where the eyes of the lover deluded saw youth and grace and beauty, there appeared to the eyes of the watcher horror only, and the emptiness of death.&quot; - Lafcadio Hearn, In Ghostly Japan<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gutenberg.org&#x2F;cache&#x2F;epub&#x2F;8128&#x2F;pg8128.txt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gutenberg.org&#x2F;cache&#x2F;epub&#x2F;8128&#x2F;pg8128.txt</a>
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charlie07 个月前
There is shopping in the afterlife, duh.
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knodi7 个月前
clothes are reflection of the of the mind imagining the ghost, not due to ghosts fashion sense.
2OEH8eoCRo07 个月前
God likes his thermostat low.
akhileshwar097 个月前
Ghosts maintain some procedure too..like we humans wear clothes ..maybe they have feelings
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drewcoo7 个月前
Now if we only knew why aliens who&#x27;ve developed the technology to visit earth haven&#x27;t also invented clothes! Maybe there&#x27;s STEM funding for that.
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