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Could you pass this 8th grade test from 1912?

69 点作者 Gaishan7 个月前

22 条评论

JojoFatsani7 个月前
I don’t have stats but in that period of time, but I imagine a lot of “less serious” students were dropping out by 8th grade to work in unskilled labor.
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hmng7 个月前
“Give at least five rules to be observed in maintaining good health.”<p>It would be interesting to know what was the “right” answer to this in 1912.
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bdjsiqoocwk7 个月前
&gt; In contrast, the 2024 curriculum for eighth graders focuses on critical thinking, problem-solving, and the application of concepts rather than pure memorization. Modern eighth-grade assessments tend to incorporate multiple-choice questions, data interpretation, and critical analysis tasks, emphasizing skills over the retention of facts. For instance, geography in 2024 often includes understanding climate change impacts, human migration, and data analysis using technology. Students are less often asked to memorize the names of specific rivers or capitals and more often expected to understand broader concepts, such as the implications of geographic features on human civilization.<p>Strongly disagree. A 12 year old has zero chance of applying critical thinking or data analysis to complex subjects like climate change or human migration. It&#x27;s still memorization, he&#x27;s still expected to regurgitate a few lines he learned in school.
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Finnucane7 个月前
8th-grade me would probably score better than today-me.
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trymas7 个月前
History’s 2nd task is to draw (??) a sketch of some historical figures. Wonder how this was graded.<p>Wikipedia for images:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Peter_Stuyvesant" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Peter_Stuyvesant</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Walter_Raleigh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Walter_Raleigh</a><p>Sketch one balding clean shaven face and sketch another one with pointy triangular beard?
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LegionMammal9787 个月前
I wonder to what extent the questions on this test indicate deep knowledge of the many subjects covered, vs. just following precisely those facts taught in the year&#x27;s curriculum. Clearly students were expected to memorize a lot of different things by rote, but I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if there wasn&#x27;t much beyond what&#x27;s covered by these questions.
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Timwi7 个月前
Somebody already mentioned this inside of a thread, but I want to point it out separately: neither the blog post nor the original image mention what counts as a “passing grade”. It&#x27;s not wild to think that this was very different in 1912.
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siva77 个月前
I would have failed the test. It frightens me that an 8th grader would be better educated than me today.
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lettergram7 个月前
&gt; While it might be easy to romanticize the rigor of early 20th-century education based on this exam, it&#x27;s important to recognize that the educational system of 1912 served a very different purpose compared to today’s system. The 1912 exam prioritized foundational, concrete knowledge, preparing students for the immediate demands of adult life in a largely localized, labor-intensive world. In contrast, the 2024 education system aims to equip students with the skills needed for a global, ever-changing job market, emphasizing critical thinking, creativity, and technological literacy.<p>I&#x27;d much prefer my children to have concrete knowledge and prepared for the world. Frankly, they&#x27;ll be plenty prepared for the job market. Many of the folks I work are barely able to function outside of their role at work -- order all their food, can&#x27;t change a tire, outsource all knowledge, etc. They&#x27;re probably like the aristocrats in the 17th - 19th centuries, where they know only what they need, servants take care of the rest.
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plorg7 个月前
I&#x27;m pretty sure I was tested on at least 80% of this as an eighth grader or thereabouts. To the extent that modern children may not be it likely reflects different priorities in education. To the extent that I could not answer some of it without Google 20 years later much of the relevant knowledge of not contained in rote memorization.
ks20487 个月前
“Parse all the words in the following sentences”. What does that mean? Give the part-of-speech for each word?
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bradgranath7 个月前
Well, it asks about Personal Pronouns, so that&#x27;s half the country&#x27;s brains exploded right there.
undebuggable7 个月前
I knew all these answers once. Knowing them then got me to where I am now.
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jzb7 个月前
“What President was impeached, and on what charge?”<p>Well that question didn’t age well…
bloomingeek7 个月前
Thank goodness for the internet, best I could tell, I scored a 73! :)
jey7 个月前
What was a passing grade back then? Even today this varies a lot in different systems. In the US public school system, 70% is considered passing, but in other contexts tests are constructed so that e.g. 35% correct is a passing grade.
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ralfd7 个月前
Is the rope question’s answer 70 feet?
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paulpauper7 个月前
<i>This all being said - I would expect an 8th grader of 2024 to pass the 1912 test. Look at the questions, they are nothing untoward, not rocket science.</i><p>Yeah, but the vast majority wouldn&#x27;t, so isn&#x27;t this contradictory? Is he trying to say 8th graders could pass if they studied or had the identical question in advance? That, too, I am skeptical of. Maybe some could, but most would not.<p>The reason is because the corpus of knowledge is so large. It&#x27;s not like those are the only questions, but rather drawn from much larger reading. This is why even well-educated adults do poorly on general knowledge tests--what is considered &#x27;general knowledge&#x27; is quite vast.<p>The difference now vs. 1912:<p>Emphasis on specialization for gifted kids, but also considerable intra-classroom variability of skill, so you have some kids learning multi-variable calc at 9th grade (not at school, but rather at local college, private tutoring , or self-study such as online with apps), and on the other extreme, others still struggling with fractions.<p>In 1912, the strugglers would have been weeded out by either dropping out of school or learning a trade. Mandatory k-12 school was not yet a thing. So there are selection biases here. Same for demographic change.
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EncomLab7 个月前
I saw a quote the other day - &quot;We used to teach Latin and Greek in High School, now we teach remedial English in College.&quot; - seems pretty much on point. Massachusetts, a state renowned for it&#x27;s commitment to education, is voting next month to eliminate it&#x27;s High School exit exam - which if passed would leave only 7 states with any form of statewide graduation requirement. Feels pretty regressive - the soft-bigotry of low expectations coming to the forefront.
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readthenotes17 个月前
Not a chance<p>I can&#x27;t even read it on my small phone screen and I&#x27;ll be d*mned if I have to zoom in
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cocok7 个月前
The teachers misspelled Serbia and Romania, but expect little American kids to know where these are.
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userbinator7 个月前
&quot;eneeavor&quot; &quot;kalsomining&quot; &quot;dodr&quot; &quot;Decline I.&quot;<p>Is this AI-generated? It certainly has all the signs of being so.<p>I&#x27;ve read real books from the late 19th and early 20th century, and while occasional typos do appear, their density here is suspicious.<p>Thus my conclusion is that I don&#x27;t think this is a real 8th grade test.
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