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The Eternal Mainframe (2013)

78 点作者 w3ll_w3ll_w3ll6 个月前

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worewood6 个月前
At least in my experience, when I&#x27;ve heard that the &quot;mainframe is going to die&quot;, it&#x27;s specifically referencing the IBM ecosystem - COBOL and friends.<p>To me it looks like the author is grasping for straws when saying &quot;well, a server rack is just like a mainframe, so the mainframe is not dying!&quot;.<p>To me it&#x27;s the opposite: yes, a server rack is just like a mainframe. That&#x27;s why the mainframe is dying - a bunch of servers can do the same work much more cheaply.
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nayuki6 个月前
Great article reflecting on who controls computational resources - the user or the company.<p>I want to respond to one point mentioned:<p>&gt; Those who continue to do significant work offline will become the exception; meaning they will be an electoral minority. With so much effort being put into web apps, they may even be seen as eccentrics; meaning there may not be much sympathy for their needs in the halls of power.<p>What I find scary is that developers see web apps (and hence the open web platform) as no longer fashionable, and instead focus on developing mobile apps (iOS and Android).<p>There are various services that are only available to mobile users, not PC &#x2F; web browser users. One I can recall off the top of my head is Snapchat a decade ago. Other examples today include various bike sharing apps, and possibly some banking apps too. Often, the web app and mobile app don&#x27;t reach feature parity. Often, the company pushes people to download the mobile app and discourages visiting the website (e.g. Reddit).
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ggm6 个月前
I think &quot;looks like&quot; is very ephemeral to what being a mainframe IS. it&#x27;s true that MP systems can look like a single entity, but they are highly asynchronous. The prism architecture meant a single clock state propagating cleanly across the CPU(s) provided a consistent, time managed framework to be all things to all people. (thats how I understand it)<p>A Sun E10000 is to my mind, as close as a mainframe gets in the post-sparc era. The Tandem non-stops had some of it, the final Dec cluster model was getting there but in a distributed async clocked manner.<p>In the end the point of the mainframe was the TPC. The sustained rate it could process edge device request-response sequences inside the bounds of your choices in the CAP theorem. Distributed systems solve the same problem, but with other consequences. It still freaks me out that IBM had so many irons in the fire they had room to do this, AND to make unix work inside this, and manage legacy, and scale out to whole-of-government or SAGE or SABRE or you-name-it.<p>I hated using AIX as a sysadmin from Dec world view btw. I&#x27;m not an IBM fanboi. I lived in the competition.
jmclnx6 个月前
Interesting article and makes a lot of sense to me.