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Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

314 点作者 type06 个月前

31 条评论

nritchie6 个月前
As a bicyclist, I'm constantly told how dangerous bicycles are. Usually, I get a blank look when I explain, bicycles are very safe, it is the cars that are the dangerous part of the equation. Now I'll have to add fast billing ambulances to the list of dangers.
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D-Coder6 个月前
&quot;An Oregon cyclist who was struck by an ambulance that made a right turn into him — fracturing his nose and leaving him with scrapes and other injuries across his body — has filed a $997,000 lawsuit against the ambulance provider after it scooped him up, drove him to the hospital and then billed him for the service, according to the suit.&quot;<p>$47K for current medical costs, $50K for expected future medical costs, and $900K for pain and suffering (long-term). So the provider may not be getting away with this.<p>Article does not say if cyclist has paid&#x2F;will pay the ambulance bill.
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rconti6 个月前
It sounds like what&#x27;s actually happening here is that the cyclist&#x27;s auto insurance is picking up the tab, and in turn suing the ambulance company to get their money back.<p>I always find this intersection of the auto and cycling worlds so strange. If he didn&#x27;t have a car, he wouldn&#x27;t have auto insurance, so I guess his health insurance would be covering the initial tab, and then suing the ambulance company to get their money back?<p>If you get a moving violation on your bicycle and show a driver&#x27;s license to the police, it seems you get points in your license, but if you don&#x27;t have a driver&#x27;s license, you don&#x27;t?
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olliej6 个月前
I can see exactly how this happened: the ambulance drivers picked up the cyclist and drove to the hospital, which requires them to do a whole bunch of paperwork to ensure correct hospital billing, correct accounting for drugs etc.<p>I would assume at that point computers took over and led to the billing. In an ideal world you’d say “well obviously the target shouldn’t have been billed by the ambulance”, but I’m guessing their infrastructure does not have a built in mechanism for “we are the cause of this trip being needed”.<p>After that the rest of the lawsuit is likely just the only mechanism to get correctly compensated (the insurance company pays the hospital - if the victim had insurance - then goes to the ambulance co to get them to pay, which is via a “lawsuit”, probably with no intent to go to court, just that’s the mechanism of action. The ambulance company also probably has insurance, but often such insurance is contingent on being sued, because of course).<p>The large amount is not actually very large: ignoring all the immediate bills I’m sure lawsuit payouts have tax obligations, depending on severity of injuries recovery can be a very long time if ever, with increased costs through out life, and then you are always starting high with the expectation of a counter offer for settlement.
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fy206 个月前
As a European, the fact that you have to pay for emergency transport in an ambulance is enough internet for today.
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cafard6 个月前
A kid I knew in high school was knocked off his bike by an ambulance. He&#x27;d have come out of the incident better if the ambulance hadn&#x27;t backed up to see what happened, for it backed over his legs. The city settled with him for what sounded like a lot of money in 1971, but not so much ten years later.
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Mathnerd3146 个月前
This is one of the common accidents, the &quot;right hook&quot;. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;velosurance.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-avoid-most-common-riding-accidents&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;velosurance.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;how-to-avoid-most-common-riding...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fcgov.com&#x2F;traffic&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;bicycle-crashes.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fcgov.com&#x2F;traffic&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;bicycle-crashes.pdf</a><p>I mostly walk these days but when I did bike I had these crash patterns memorized so I could avoid them.
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osrec6 个月前
The American healthcare system scares the living daylights out of me.
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kopirgan6 个月前
$1800 to drive him to the hospital?! They didn&#x27;t even had to drive to pick him up!
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K0balt6 个月前
Kudos for the innovative approach to streamlining the customer acquisition funnel!<p>Now if we could only make this work using gig app contractors, maybe explore a collab with Uber… this is so fire!<p>I think I figured out a way to make this scale and put a moat around it. See y’all at my series A!
davidhyde6 个月前
Knee jerk reaction about the ambulance service behaviour and general cyclist safety aside, 100k in medical expenses and a 1m lawsuit for a broken nose and other “unspecified” injuries is just mental.
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CHB04030854826 个月前
Bakfiet time? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=rQhzEnWCgHA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=rQhzEnWCgHA</a>
rNULLED6 个月前
guys new startup idea
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seba_dos16 个月前
This headline tells you which country this happened in without telling you which country this happened in.
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secretsatan6 个月前
Reminds me of what happened to a friend of mine in Switzerland. He was walking (perhaps staggering) home drunk one night, and a police car drove by to ask if he was alright and perhaps he wanted a lift home? The guy said alright and they drove him perhaps 500m.<p>Couple of days later he got a bill for the ride.
rad_gruchalski6 个月前
Did he get a discount because the ambulance was already there?
nadermx6 个月前
Here is a video[0] with links to the paper from UC Denver about how protected bike lanes make it safer for everyone. Maybe this might help the cause<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YwYeNz1jCkM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=YwYeNz1jCkM</a>
rightbyte6 个月前
In stories like this... I assume the patient was billed due to some automatic bureaucracy?
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polotics6 个月前
Memories of one specific 6 year old a long time ago that was hit by an ambulance and had a long-ish life in a wheelchair with severely reduce brain functions. Also memory of the last game of chess I had played with this friend. He&#x27;s dead now, of covid in his forties, his mum having pretty much dedicated her life to taking care of the forever-kid.<p>Please think to drive carefully, and after that then please think to drive with enough care that you won&#x27;t create such pain.
karim796 个月前
I know I&#x27;m a bit spoiled health-services wise by being a resident of Germany. But this story is just incredible, yet completely unsurprising.<p>I hope the US will have mandatory health insurance some day.
shiroiushi6 个月前
Only in America.
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supportengineer6 个月前
Talk about an “infinite free money hack”
fennecbutt6 个月前
Greedy medical industry executives stick him with the bill* suit and tie parasites
sathishmanohar6 个月前
Well. The ambulance just unlocked infinite money glitch.
jrrrr6 个月前
Somebody make this video game.
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stefanos826 个月前
Why does this reminds me of the &quot;Why would they do this&quot; meme? Such things happen only in USA LOL!
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occz6 个月前
This is baffling to the point where it almost feels like satire.<p>What are you going to tell me next, that the bicyclist committed a faux pas by not tipping the ambulance driver?
thoroughburro6 个月前
In Capitalist America, ambulance chases YOU.
iseanstevens6 个月前
Chaser Ambulance?
kube-system6 个月前
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icar6 个月前
This has nothing to do with tech. It&#x27;s for Twitter, not HackerNews.
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