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'A fatal miscalculation': masculinity researcher on why Democrats lost young men

25 点作者 makerdiety7 个月前

6 条评论

asksomeoneelse7 个月前
I feel that a lot of men voted for Trump, not because they liked him, but because they felt rejected by the Left as a whole.<p>If you go on left-leaning media, you can find comments that would be considered gross hate speech if it targeted any other group, by the hundreds. And yet, people very rarely call them out on that, if ever. There seems to be an omerta on misandry (and anti-white racism to some extent) amongst the Democrats. More than that, a lot of them seem to even revel in it, proud of it.<p>Not surprising that some men end up with a mindset &quot;I don&#x27;t care if the Right wins, I need the Left to lose&quot;.<p>The bottom line being that America really needs a middle&#x2F;center party, but I fear it might be too late.
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inglor_cz7 个月前
* [The Joe Rogan Experience], Trump went on these weird rants but you just got the sense of Trump figuring it out. Sure, he’s got weird views on stuff, but he didn’t come across as a hateful figure.*<p>This is spot on. I recently listened to the Trump, Vance and Musk sessions on JRE.<p>The banter with Vance was interesting, Musk was his usual nerdy self and Trump was ranting a bit, but none of them projected any Dark Lord vibes. They came off as regular people.<p>Demonization doesn&#x27;t really work with interviews like that being one click away in your smartphone.
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kwere7 个月前
Republicans repells educated, single, liberal women for the same reasons Democrats struggle with straight, masculine, traditional males. They demonize and act often hostile to such demographics. Both believe others &quot;wrong&quot; behaviours should be corrected.<p>Democrats appealed historically to men as the working class party, image that kamala couldnt sell.
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onetokeoverthe7 个月前
Suggestion to Central Casting: Find a 50 year old who looks 40 instead of a 60 year old who looks 75.
Eumenes7 个月前
I&#x27;m a self taught programmer who didn&#x27;t go to college. After high school, I stuck around my rural-ish hometown and did tech support for a cable&#x2F;ISP company. That job exposed to me to scripting&#x2F;automating tasks and I eventually left the area to move to the Bay area for a much better paycheck (I have since moved away, but not back home). I keep in touch with my high school buddies (all men), whom happen to be quite diverse (gay puerto rican, jewish guy, muslim serb are my 3 best friends). When we were kids, we were anti war (all our parents were super pro Bush post 9&#x2F;11) and didn&#x27;t think anything of things like gay marriage. We smoked pot and thought the war on drugs was BS. We looked up to figures like Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders (I know, they are different). We were solidly in team blue. I can count on one hand the times I&#x27;ve seen right leaning views expressed in my tech career. Most of my male colleagues come from money, attended elite schools, couldn&#x27;t change their own oil, and are almost exclusively urbanites. I&#x27;m almost certain they are all left leaning. I&#x27;m pretty certain this forum demographic falls into that category. Tech workforce is more representative of finance vs the hacker culture it was born out of.<p>Anyway, fast forward to today, 15-20 years later, all of my friends from back home lean right&#x2F;libertarian, despite different backgrounds and directions. I suspect alot of men in the 30-40 age group have similar stories. Cozying up to neo-cons, the focus on identity politics and hyper sensitivity to not offend people, cringe endorsements from celebs, fear of being patriotic; the list goes on. For people like me, I don&#x27;t think it has to do with &quot;masculinity&quot; in the traditional sense, its hard to place, but like another comment mentioned, &quot;I don&#x27;t care if the Right wins, I need the Left to lose&quot;, resonates.
bokoharambe7 个月前
Can&#x27;t take this seriously when Trump barely got more votes this time around than he did last time. There has been no loss of young men. People are broadly feeling disenfranchised, and that&#x27;s why the Democrats lost. If anything, this is a broad rebuke of liberalism without endorsement of the prevailing alternative.
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