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A joke in approximating numbers raised to irrational powers

109 点作者 nomemory6 个月前

9 条评论

sevensor6 个月前
<p><pre><code> sin x = x </code></pre> Half the problems in EE become trivial once you learn this. Sometimes the universe does a bad job of complying with the approximation though.
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parsimo20106 个月前
After following the correct link from @nomemory in the comments, this is good for a bit of a chuckle once you see the formula. If you can evaluate the formula you probably have a calculator or computer on hand and could compute the original value to double precision (I&#x27;m not even sure that the approximation would compute faster, but I didn&#x27;t benchmark it).<p>But even though the approximation has no value in a real world application, the description of getting to the approximation is really good. I&#x27;ve never heard of Pade approximations before, and I liked the lead in from small angle approximations and Taylor series. I&#x27;d say this post is accessible to (and can be appreciated by) advanced undergraduates in engineering or math or comp sci.
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jbmsf6 个月前
Happy to see someone else who watches Michael Penn videos.
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NameError6 个月前
Reminds me of a cool proof I saw recently that there are two numbers a and b such that a and b are both irrational, but a^b is rational:<p>Take sqrt(2)^sqrt(2), which is either rational or not. If it&#x27;s rational, we&#x27;re done. If not, consider sqrt(2) ^ (sqrt(2) ^ sqrt(2)). Since (a^b)^c = a^bc, we get sqrt(2) ^ (sqrt(2))^2 = sqrt(2)^2 = 2, which is rational!<p>It feels like a bit of a sleight of hand, since we don&#x27;t actually have to know whether sqrt(2)^sqrt(2) is rational for the proof to work.
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enugu6 个月前
One interesting result implies that numbers like 3^(sqrt(3)) will be transcendental (ie no polynomial will evaluate them to 0).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gelfond%E2%80%93Schneider_theorem" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Gelfond%E2%80%93Schneider_theo...</a>
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nightpool6 个月前
Kinda weird that we don&#x27;t get a graph for the final &quot;solution&quot;? I was looking forward to seeing how it compared to the other plots!
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Miniminix6 个月前
Secondly, I remember watching a few months ago a video from Michael Penn, about something called Padé Approximations: Pade Approximation – unfortunately missed in most Caclulus courses. It was a subject worth exploring.
xdavidliu6 个月前
for a second I thought 404 was the joke. Tried thinking hard for maybe 10 seconds to figure out why it was the joke, but then realized it was not.
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0xml6 个月前
pi^4+pi^5=e^6 lol