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German WWII Soldier Grave Found with Mesolithic Tools, Roman and Byzantine Coins

117 点作者 petethomas6 个月前

13 条评论

Cthulhu_6 个月前
Unfortunately, not a time traveler. That would be something else, finding a 4000 year old grave with someone with composite fillings, titanium bone implants, wearing the remains of a smartphone in various jewelry / clothing and, knowing how these things go, having a deeply engraved granite slab with a message to the future, something like "don't invent time travel!" or "do not Awaken the Dreamer!"
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trhway6 个月前
Back in the USSR the German graves weren&#x27;t respected to say the least. The gravesites were usually unmarked. There was a segment of people whose &quot;hobby&quot; was to raid those graves for the various artifacts - daggers, golden teeth, watches and whatever else given buried German soldier had on him, whether of his own or that he may have collected as his &quot;hobby&quot; during the invasion.<p>A soldier had to carry everything with him, and as we know from the documents of the time the gold and watches were naturally among the most frequent loot items carried by them (sidenote: widespread motorized infantry armor has changed the game since then - the Russian BTRs and BMPs in the Chechen war for example were full of rags and electronics that the Russian soldiers looted from the Chechen homes, and in the Ukrainian war it has been computers&#x2F;laptops&#x2F;TVs, auto parts, etc.). The soldier in the article seems to have correctly decided that the ancient coins 1. may be more valuable than gold, 2. there is less competition looting local historic museum, and 3. if you&#x27;re taken prisoner carrying those ancient artifacts you&#x27;re less likely to be shot as a marauder than with say a pocket full of golden teeth - even today in this article they call him a &quot;numismatics enthusiast&quot;.
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dvh6 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Out-of-place_artifact" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Out-of-place_artifact</a>
aquova6 个月前
Very interesting find. I think it&#x27;s not uncommon to find many eras of artifacts in the same site, simply because sites ranging back even to the neolithic continue to be used as time goes on. My layman assumption is that this was a decent sized community for a number of centuries that eventually died out, which this German solider happened to die on top of during the war.
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self_awareness6 个月前
This German soldier probably has stolen it from somewhere or someone, like soldiers attacking other countries do.
mkl6 个月前
Tangentially, this site, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.labrujulaverde.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.labrujulaverde.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;</a>, is fascinating! I spent a couple of hours this morning reading other articles.
codr76 个月前
Given the Nazi interest in ancient cultures I find the hobby-theory to be the least likely explanation.
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sandworm1016 个月前
&gt;&gt; The first surprise was the discovery of a pit containing the remains of a German soldier, likely fallen in battle in February 1945 during the fights over the Grzybek bridge in the final days of World War II. However, what seemed to be a significant find soon revealed additional secrets, leading the team to an even older and extraordinary discovery.<p>Contrary to almost all comments so far, the dead soldier and the artifacts are not related. And this is not a grave. This is where a soldier fell. A grave is where someone is buried, not the place where they were killed and lost to history. The soldier may have been wounded and hiding in the pit, or literally fell atop, but would not have been burried there by anyone. The older artifacts were there long before ww2.
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sgt6 个月前
Those coins seem so round and perfectly created to be ancient ones. Are we sure the photo matches the actual find?
mossTechnician6 个月前
I thought there was a more concise way to write &quot;German WWII soldier&quot;.
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sonorous_sub6 个月前
I keep trying to hide this thread, but it has resisted my efforts thus far, like some time-traveling, anachronistic - oh, wait
gigatexal6 个月前
Time traveling Nazis! ;-)
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hulitu6 个月前
&gt; German WWII Soldier Grave Found with Mesolithic Tools, Roman and Byzantine Coins<p>It is amazing what a bomb does to the surounding landscape. &#x2F;s