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The Antikythera mechanism – 254:19 ratio

162 点作者 0823498723498725 个月前

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atmosx5 个月前
&gt; My sketch of the Sun-Earth-Moon system assumes a heliocentric solar system, something that wasn’t known to the Greeks of the first century BCE.<p>I am not sure this is entirely accurate. According to Wikipedia:<p>&gt; The notion that the Earth revolves around the Sun had been proposed as early as the 3rd century BC by Aristarchus of Samos,[1] who had been influenced by a concept presented by Philolaus of Croton (c. 470 – 385 BC). In the 5th century BC the Greek philosophers Philolaus and Hicetas had the thought on different occasions that the Earth was spherical and revolving around a &quot;mystical&quot; central fire, and that this fire regulated the universe.[2] In medieval Europe, however, Aristarchus&#x27; heliocentrism attracted little attention—possibly because of the loss of scientific works of the Hellenistic period.[b]<p>Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Heliocentrism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Heliocentrism</a><p>Contrary to the recent revisionist version of the “dark ages”, they were pretty dark if you were a Greek of the Hellenistic period, an Athenian 5th century BC or a Roman the next 500-800 years. Loss of philosophical (locked in monasteries) and technical knowledge is common and Heliocentrism or the blood circulation system (Egyptians during the Ptolemy era had knowledge comparable to the one we will acquire again 18th century) are two prime examples.
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Alex39175 个月前
If you&#x27;re in Athens, the Herakleidon museum has not only an exhibit about this, but about all sorts of other advanced Greek technology: coin-operated vending machines, drink-serving robots, water-powered telegraphs, etc. While this specific device may (or may not) have been a one-off, it&#x27;s undeniable that ancient Greece was basically the real-life version of a Steampunk-based society. (With the caveat that ancient Persia probably had similar technology at one point also, but most of that has since been destroyed by the British and others throughout history.)
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zefhous5 个月前
I’m just here to fulfill the Hacker News rule that any post mentioning the Antikythera Mechanism must have a comment linking the excellent Clickspring build videos.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;playlist?list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4R...</a>
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sgt1015 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;programmes&#x2F;m0024x0g" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;programmes&#x2F;m0024x0g</a><p>Up to date and with a very good discussion of the 254:19 gearing.<p>Also much more detail on the history of the mechanism.
meew05 个月前
&gt; I’ve always liked blogging about calendrical things, but I don’t remember doing anything on the Metonic cycle before. If I had written faster, I could’ve published it on Friday the 13th. Too bad.<p>On the other hand, you published it during a full moon. That&#x27;s at least slightly appropriate given the subject matter :)
casenmgreen5 个月前
I was living in Athens, and visiting the museums, and I had no idea - I walked around a corner in the National and pow - the Mechanism, <i>THE</i> Mechanism, was there, <i>right in front of me</i>.<p><i>WOW</i>.<p>Also, Elgin marbles need to be returned. Parthenon is defaced by their absence.
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hyhconito5 个月前
Ha literally just saw that this morning in the National Archaeological Museum in Athens! Lurking here paid off. A good read.
analog315 个月前
Reminds me of finding a pair of gears in a box of lathe accessories, with 50 and 127 teeth.
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hoseja5 个月前
I once heard that the mechanism was too fine&#x2F;the gear train too large that it could not possibly actually work without stripping the gears or seizing due to friction.
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robertlagrant5 个月前
Hah - I watched that Veritasium video the other day.