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Infamous paper that popularized unproven Covid-19 treatment retracted

74 点作者 giuliomagnifico5 个月前

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dfxm125 个月前
As far back as <i>August 2020</i>, this paper was known to be &quot;fully irresponsible&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;retractionwatch.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;19&#x2F;french-hydroxychloroquine-study-has-major-methodological-shortcomings-and-is-fully-irresponsible-says-review-but-is-not-being-retracted&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;retractionwatch.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;19&#x2F;french-hydroxychloroq...</a><p>This retraction is better than nothing, but it&#x27;s about four and a half years too late.
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mritun5 个月前
&gt; investigators did not receive a response from Raoult, the corresponding author. To date, 32 papers published by IHU authors have been retracted, 28 of them co-authored by Raoult, and 243 have expressions of concern.<p>I am not a scientist but it of 32 faulty widgets, 28 widgets are made by a guy called Raoult, then even blue collar workers know Raoult is an idiot with no business making widgets. If that does not happen, ACME Widgets will eventually go out of business.<p>This is how science gets discredited - by allowing idiots do “science”. Here Raoult does not get kicked out, but is Director of the ACME - this is how entire field of medicine research gor tainted.
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Cthulhu_5 个月前
It won&#x27;t make much of a difference to be honest; the Wakefield paper that &quot;proved&quot; a link between MMR vaccines and autism was published for nearly 22 years until it was pulled in 2010, but it&#x27;s still cited and vaguely referenced as being definite proof. It&#x27;s this weird absolute but super selective belief in certain science that gets me, it&#x27;s both &quot;this paper PROVES it&quot;, but also &quot;all these other papers that fail to replicate the findings or outright disprove it are FAKE SCIENCE pushed by LIZARD PEOPLE and I&#x27;m NOT GOING TO READ IT&quot;.<p>It&#x27;s maddening. I mean don&#x27;t get me wrong, I don&#x27;t read scientific papers at all because I&#x27;m not smart enough and don&#x27;t have the attention span but I can criticise those that say they do and believe in science nevertheless.
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tejohnso5 个月前
I thought it was going to be about Ivermectin but it&#x27;s Hydroxychloroquine.
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Izkata5 个月前
Maybe in some circles? But not any I remember. It got popularized because of early reports from China that HCQ+Zinc seemed to help, not really HCQ alone.
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timr5 个月前
HCQ doesn&#x27;t work for Covid, but this is a fundamentally political retraction that won&#x27;t accomplish anything.<p>If I had to line up Covid-related papers that should be retracted on the grounds that the science was shoddy this paper would certainly be on the list, but it would be on a list with other, absolutely horrible, irresponsible stuff related to (for example) masks [1], that <i>the same people who railed against this paper continue to believe</i>, almost as religion.<p>In the Covid debates &quot;both sides&quot; have their shibboleths that are based on atrocious science, so let&#x27;s not get too sanctimonious about retraction of a single paper.<p>[1] Since people are downvoting because I said the word &quot;masks&quot;, here is just one high-profile example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nejm.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;full&#x2F;10.1056&#x2F;NEJMoa2211029" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nejm.org&#x2F;doi&#x2F;full&#x2F;10.1056&#x2F;NEJMoa2211029</a><p>This paper was found, in subsequent analysis, to have cherry-picked their data sets to achieve a pre-determined outcome:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2307.11974" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2307.11974</a><p>If you find yourself reacting emotionally to this particular topic (or any other related to Covid), you should take a step back and consider that you might be an example of what I&#x27;m talking about.
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