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Thoughts on Paul Rand

123 点作者 dirtyaura将近 13 年前

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drostie将近 13 年前
One great story about Paul Rand:<p><pre><code> "He is one of the most professional people I've ever worked with, in the sense that he thought through all of the formal relationship between a client and a professional such as himself -- obviously very deep thoughts about this -- and therefore he had very clear conclusions about what the relationship meant to both parties and how it should be conducted. For example: I asked him if he would come up with 'a few options'. And he said 'No, I will solve your problem for you. And you will pay me. And you don't have to use the solution -- if you want options go talk to other people! -- but I'll solve your problem for you the best way I know how, and you use it or not, that's up to you, you're the client -- but you pay me.' And there was a clarity about the relationship that was refreshing." -- Steve Jobs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8idEf-Iak </code></pre> I really enjoyed his uncompromising attitude, "I'm not going to attempt to solve the problem 4 times for you; you can consult 4 people who wholeheartedly attempt to solve the problem once." The idea that art is not something to be half-assed but something to be pursued, as the Tibetans might say, "one-pointedly", is a deep lesson which I myself resonate very strongly with.
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SteveJS将近 13 年前
Discovering someone who is clearly a giant, in a field about which I am ignorant, is my favorite thing about Hacker News.<p>I anticipate good reading ahead: <a href="http://www.paul-rand.com/foundation/thoughts/#articles" rel="nofollow">http://www.paul-rand.com/foundation/thoughts/#articles</a>
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cschmidt将近 13 年前
A wonderful man. I followed everything he wrote for many years. To this day, I do a double take when I see Congressman Rand Paul in the press, and then feel disappointed.
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10dpd将近 13 年前
"At the time I was building a reputation for myself as being a gifted graphical user interface designer."<p>What products has John Maeda designed that we can use or have used in the past?<p>Writing books is great, but its the practical application that really builds reputations.
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michaelpinto将近 13 年前
Steve Jobs on Paul Rand <a href="http://youtu.be/xb8idEf-Iak" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/xb8idEf-Iak</a>
sktrdie将近 13 年前
Is it just me or is everything he says <i>very</i> abstract? Sure he's good at his craft, but all the things about everything being subjective, and design having many meanings, and that anything can be artistic... it just seems like he has very generic sort of explanations for everything.<p>I guess to be a good designer you have to have this attitude, but in today's business, the sort of attitude where you're like "I'll show you a single logo, and you won't have other options" won't cut it.<p>Design is subjective and it will always be, so not giving your client many options is just plain stupid and will make you poor before you know it.
nottombrown将近 13 年前
Both Maeda and Rand are legends. Ironic that poor design of the ACG site clashed so much with the content of the article.<p>Notes to self:<p><pre><code> In QA format, place the answers close to the questions they correspond to. Be consistent in placing initials before dialog.</code></pre>
raintrees将近 13 年前
Thanks, it's nice to have something positive to start the day.
naturalethic将近 13 年前
The only effect I've seen from the word "talent" is to convince some people they'll never be good at anything. I really hate that word and the pretensious jerks who use it.
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