Ghost jobs – 7 in 10 hiring managers consider them morally acceptable

When I was applying for work a few months ago, it was very clear many companies that sat me for an interview had no intention of hiring. I believe we need to call out this bad behavior to end it.<p>One example is Snapchat. They gave a leetcode hard for an MLE role, which is absurd. I have an MLE friend who actually solved their LC hard problem but was still failed in that interview.<p>There were several others which were clearly not interested in hiring. And others which were but I failed anyways, which I know because I know people who passed.<p>You might call this sour grapes but I strongly believe it is commonplace to waste engineers’ time (on both sides of the table) with fake interviews.<p>And don’t even get me started on take home assignments. Half of them are startups that are fishing for innovation because as it turns out you could get VC money for a while without it.

This appears to be the source of the stat: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.resumebuilder.com&#x2F;3-in-10-companies-currently-have-fake-job-posting-listed&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.resumebuilder.com&#x2F;3-in-10-companies-currently-ha...</a><p>TBH, this doesn&#x27;t really pass the smell test to me. Most people here seem to find it morally abhorrent, so the idea that 70% of &quot;hiring managers&quot; would find it acceptable is surprising, especially since most of these will be line managers who probably were ICs not that long ago. Also it says 68% reported a positive impact on revenue, which doesn&#x27;t make any sense.<p>Ultimately, this is first and foremost a piece of content marketing, so their incentive is to get the biggest response not to be the most accurate.

False advertising is illegal. Ghost job posts should be no different.

Since society is making it acceptable to treat employees like dirt, I don&#x27;t see why employees will not exploit employers in a variety of ways.

I hear people talking about this all the time on here, so let me pose a couple scenarios for consideration:<p>A company has a dev team of 10 people. Hiring typically takes 3-4 months. Retention is ~2 years per employee. Assume the team size is stable. Is it morally acceptable to have an open role listed before anyone has quit?<p>A company has a team of 500 people. Hiring typically takes 1-2 months. Retention is ~ 2 years per employee. Assume the team size is stable. How many roles is it morally acceptable to have open before people have quit?

&quot;People waste energy and time applying for them, following up with hiring managers who aren’t actually hiring, and preparing for interviews that aren’t going to happen. That’s exhausting and demoralizing.&quot;<p>Most importantly, it&#x27;s fraud and theft. It&#x27;s time people took a much harder stand against entities who deliberately steal their time. Call them out and make it as unpleasant as possible for these scumbags (not that this amounts to much).

Some of the reasons reported for having ghost jobs listed seem morally acceptable for example:<p>&gt; They’re “always open to new people”: The organization is always on the lookout for potential candidates for future roles, whether or not they’re actively hiring at the moment. This was true of 50% of respondents in one survey from Clarify Capital.<p>Perhaps a note on the posting could help.<p>I&#x27;m noticing nothing in this article about justification about hiring on visa, which seems like a scummy behavior that would have been relevant.