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The Truth About H-1B Visas It's wage theft, pure and simple

64 点作者 megamike4 个月前

15 条评论

015a4 个月前
The reality that I observe with H1Bs among a couple of my friends who are here on one is: They are paid less, they dislike their jobs, and they feel a tremendous inability to find a new one.<p>H1Bs are figuratively a policy disconcertingly similar to slave labor.<p>Much of this election cycle has been about the schism between the ground truth people observe, and what we&#x27;re being told by the elites; the economy is good, but many people are struggling, stuff like that. H1Bs are that for me. Everyone says we need them, that our industry would be screwed without them; but what I see is a program which exists only to prop up unsustainable companies on the backs of cheap indentured labor; it does not serve the interests of the American people. The vast majority go to companies like Accenture; trash consulting companies.<p>Immigration is America&#x27;s superpower. Temporary migrant workers are not immigration. The goal of every foreign worker entering America should be citizenship, every migrant worker program should pose citizenship as the outcome, and if it would be politically&#x2F;economically unsustainable to do that the program should not exist.
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jasode4 个月前
Honest question... is the Twitter screenshot[1] of Amazon jobs in Arlington VA enough to conclude that their H1B is specifically about <i>low-wage warehouse jobs</i>?<p>Because Arlington VA also has these software engineering jobs:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.jobs&#x2F;en&#x2F;search?base_query=software+engineer&amp;loc_query=Virginia%2C+United+States&amp;latitude=&amp;longitude=&amp;loc_group_id=&amp;invalid_location=false&amp;country=USA&amp;city=&amp;region=Virginia" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.jobs&#x2F;en&#x2F;search?base_query=software+engine...</a><p>Lots of white-collar professional jobs in HQ2 Arlinton VA:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.jobs&#x2F;content&#x2F;en&#x2F;locations&#x2F;hq2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.jobs&#x2F;content&#x2F;en&#x2F;locations&#x2F;hq2</a><p>Also, a H1B status that&#x27;s exempt from the annual cap is still required to have minimum salary of $60k a year (~$30&#x2F;hour): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dol.gov&#x2F;agencies&#x2F;whd&#x2F;fact-sheets&#x2F;62q-h1b-exempt-workers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dol.gov&#x2F;agencies&#x2F;whd&#x2F;fact-sheets&#x2F;62q-h1b-exempt-...</a><p>The prevailing wage for warehouse labor is ~$18&#x2F;hour: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=amazon+warehouse+worker+wages+arlington+va" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;search?q=amazon+warehouse+worker+wage...</a><p>[1] <i>&gt;@drsuffy: Anyways Amazon just had 9,200 Warehouse jobs be approved for H1B for 2024. Yes. Because &quot;retail trade&quot;(warehouse labor) is the best of the best and definitely can&#x27;t be filled by your average American</i> : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;drsuffy&#x2F;status&#x2F;1872679207991669109" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;x.com&#x2F;drsuffy&#x2F;status&#x2F;1872679207991669109</a>
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m_ke4 个月前
The richest man in the world, who just fired 90% of his employees and plans on cutting the Department of Education saying Americans are too stupid so we need to remove the caps on indentured labor is the most amusing thing I&#x27;ve seen in a really long time.<p>Immigration is America&#x27;s greatest asset, followed closely by the vast oceans that shield our capital from any threats. H1B should be replaced by an auction system that lets in the top paid employees and converts to a green card after one year with the company.
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palmfacehn4 个月前
It is too politically loaded for people to examine.<p>In the <i>simple</i> terms, as per the title, it is protectionism. Without making an argument for either position, it seems a bit hypocritical when tariff critics, &quot;You know this means the consumer will pay more, right?&quot;, reverse their position and demand protectionism for labor.<p>Of course there is much more nuance. Many H1Bs are not the mega-geniuses proponents allege. I lose interest when the argument turns towards IQ distributions and ID politics.<p>&quot;Wage theft&quot; is a bit spicy as well. Are employees entitled to their job at a given wage as some kind of Nativist birth right?<p>Comedian Sam Hyde had some interesting takes. I&#x27;m not convinced of his position, but he did well to illustrate how the dialogue around this issue isn&#x27;t getting us there.
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elashri4 个月前
I am not sure about the claim by one tweet cited in the article that the approved number per year is exceeding the limit of 85k to 800k. I understand that the limit can be exceeded (transfers and academic positions mainly) but I am not sure that would give x10 increase above the limit.<p>Does anyone with more understanding and good numbers weight in about that?
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debacle4 个月前
The H1B system sucks for everyone but the employer, which is kind of the point.<p>I have watched brilliant young devs have to jump through the OPT hoops in hopes of finally getting an H1B to live out their startup dream. I have also met H1Bs who have the mental acuity of a mildewy scone.<p>There needs to be a difficult, but fair and clear path to citizenship.
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MangoCoffee4 个月前
Whenever the H-1B visas come up, I always remember this old video(1) and Disney hiring foreign IT workers to replace its American workers and asking the American workers to train them(2). Companies will always abuse the system and find loopholes, just like rich people often find ways to avoid taxes.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA</a><p>2. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20241230014341&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;06&#x2F;04&#x2F;us&#x2F;last-task-after-layoff-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20241230014341&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytim...</a>
ritcgab4 个月前
It is not valid to use the number of workers got laid off vs the number of new H1B visas applied in the same company to argue that foreign labor is replacing US workers. You just don&#x27;t know how many H1B owners are laid off.
klooney4 个月前
What is the point and purpose of the body shops? What&#x27;s the value proposition for people contracting with them instead of a more straightforward offshore contracting arrangement? Who is hiring them?
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joshdavham4 个月前
…or maybe the H-1B is just a visa to allow non-Americans to work in the US?
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bad_haircut724 个月前
Its not just the benefit to the US - every smart person we can convince to come here is one less in our competitor countries.
dachworker4 个月前
If that&#x27;s the case would you not expect there to me more European H-1Bs, the reasoning being that if these VISAs are not merit based but gaming the system, then why aren&#x27;t Europeans taking advantage of this opportunity to get a 2x&#x2F;3x salary bump, and loads more growth opportunities? What am I missing?
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RajT884 个月前
Dunno why flagged.<p>I had a friend here on a visa whose boss definitely committed wage theft, making anyone who was not a citizen or on a green card work extra hours for no overtime. He was not even a techie. This is apparently very common.<p>That is before you even get into the &quot;body shops&quot; which I find quite believable.
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EcommerceFlow4 个月前
1) Raise the minimum salary to 200k+. Anything else is indentured servitude&#x2F;downwards wage pressure.<p>2) Remove the family extension. 80k&#x2F;year shouldn&#x27;t end up being 500k&#x2F;year.
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schnable4 个月前
I am unsure how seriously to take the referenced tweets, which make extraordinary claims but cite no evidence.