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Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

93 点作者 nancyp5 个月前

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davidw5 个月前
I&#x27;m nearly 50. I&#x27;m used to the idea of businesses owners having different politics than my own, but mostly that was the sort of self-interested &quot;I&#x27;m wealthy and I think wealthy people should pay fewer taxes and their businesses should be subject to fewer regulations&quot; sorts of things. You can disagree without thinking they&#x27;re necessarily Bad People or worthy of boycotting their businesses. Indeed, it&#x27;s the hallmark of a healthy democracy that we can agree to disagree about various aspects of our society.<p>It&#x27;s pretty rare to see, on the other hand, someone insert themselves into politics quite so loudly, and in such an extreme way. A lot of what we&#x27;ve seen from the head of that company in the past few years is playing footsie (and sometimes not very subtly) with outright anti-semitism and white supremacy.<p>I&#x27;m not ok with that.
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canucker20165 个月前
Previous years vehicle sales for Tesla (TSLA - stock ticker) - source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.factorywarrantylist.com&#x2F;car-sales-by-manufacturer.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.factorywarrantylist.com&#x2F;car-sales-by-manufacture...</a><p><pre><code> Year Sales Percent Increase from prev. yr 2023 1,808,581 ↑ 32% 2022 1,369,611 ↑ 47% 2021 930,422 ↑ 83% </code></pre> TSLA market cap is more than the next 19 car manufacturers combined! Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;companiesmarketcap.com&#x2F;automakers&#x2F;largest-automakers-by-market-cap&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;companiesmarketcap.com&#x2F;automakers&#x2F;largest-automakers...</a>
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bryanlarsen5 个月前
In contrast, BYD sold over 500,000 vehicles in December alone.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrek.co&#x2F;2025&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;byds-ev-sales-surged-2024-enough-top-tesla&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;electrek.co&#x2F;2025&#x2F;01&#x2F;02&#x2F;byds-ev-sales-surged-2024-eno...</a>
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mbesto5 个月前
My friend said it best: &quot;EVs are great second cars&quot;<p>I think we&#x27;re finally hitting the saturation point of EVs as the market who adopted them is realizing their flaws as a primary vehicle:<p>- Inadequate infrastructure (both localized &quot;my apartment doesn&#x27;t have a charging station&quot; and more globally &quot;I stopped at a supercharger station and it was full of people so my charge went from 100 kW to 15 kW and took 45 min to charge&quot;)<p>- Lack of experience and knowledge around regenerative breaking<p>- Poor battery performance in cold&#x2F;extreme heat<p>- Misunderstood maintenance changes. Instead of oil changes&#x2F;filters&#x2F;etc, your tires wear 20~30% faster and you have to replace the battery every 10 years.<p>The reality is it&#x27;s not <i>me</i> that&#x27;s saying this, the used car market is saying this. EVs simply don&#x27;t hold their value on the used market.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iseecars.com&#x2F;cars-that-hold-their-value-study" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iseecars.com&#x2F;cars-that-hold-their-value-study</a><p>FYI - I&#x27;m a proud owner of a Rivian after selling my Tesla.
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dabinat4 个月前
I have a Tesla Model 3 and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned, but I won’t be getting another when my lease is up, solely because I don’t want to give any more money to Elon. My next car might be a Lucid, but I’ll see what the market is like in a couple of years.<p>I do find it interesting that people think of Tesla as being a luxury brand though. I mean, sure, the Model S and Cybertruck are expensive, but you can get a Model 3 for $40k (before $7500 federal credit plus whatever incentives your state has). This is lower than the average new car price of $48k and the same as the top-end RAV4. The Model 3 is cheaper than most other electric cars in its class, and is likely the reason why Musk thinks getting rid of the federal credit will hurt his competitors more than him.
junto5 个月前
Good. Musk has aligned himself with a number of people that have designs on forcing Europe’s hand to abandon Ukraine and make a strong return to Russian gas and Saudi oil. Russia and the oil rich Middle East have no desire to see an energy independent Europe powered by renewables and long term battery storage.<p>He could be busy further developing battery technology to further enable decarbonization and energy decentralization based on renewables.<p>Having founded an EV company, you’d think that would be a core value he would hold, however everything he currently signals speak to the opposite.<p>I cannot fathom why on earth he now seems to be working against himself, and alienating his core customer base, who were most likely to buy EV’s — green, liberal, “woke”, left leaning consumers.
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avgDev5 个月前
It is only going to get worse for Tesla.<p>Musk went all in extreme right-wing. Even though most &quot;green&quot; buyers are left leaning.<p>I started disliking Musk after his pedo comments in regards to the cave rescuers. The smart&#x2F;geeky&#x2F;techy guy is a facade.<p>I mainly would not consider Tesla because of Musk. The poor build quality just reinforces that stance.
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jaggs5 个月前
Isn&#x27;t it a 39% drop? From 38% rise in 2023 to -1% drop 2024?
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UndefinedRef5 个月前
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sidcool5 个月前
Why&#x27;s there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?
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