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Los Angeles fires expose inflated US home prices

36 点作者 petethomas5 个月前

9 条评论

jmugan5 个月前
I don't see the link to why home prices would be inflated. Maybe they are or maybe they aren't, but it doesn't have anything to do with fires. People still have to live places, even if risk from climate change is increasing. Very strange editorializing from Reuters.
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redeux5 个月前
The article is talking about the relationship between insurance and housing prices. When insurance premiums go up, housing prices fall. When insurance is more difficult to get or not available at all, housing prices fall a lot.<p>&gt; Assume a typical California home is worth $1 million and insuring it costs $5,000 annually. If the equivalent rent is $70,000, doubling the premium would reduce the house’s value by 7%<p>&gt; State Farm cancelled most of its policies in Pacific Palisades last year; the median sale price there fell 16%<p>So, it follows that since the risk of natural disasters is increasing across the US, that insurance premiums will rise and thus home prices are inflated because they don’t account for that yet.
k3105 个月前
I see not one mention of home flipping, unless somewhere in this thread is mention of big investors flipping homes by another name. Radio is inundated by ads offering to buy homes in a 10 minute process,(or some other short interval) sight unseen.<p>And as an average Joe, how else am I able to make $250,000 tax-free?<p>The &quot;desirable&quot; places to live are near the ocean, where there are mountain ranges, probably due to earthquake faults (how soon we forget) and dangerous winds, plus the dry summers.<p>Most of the Central Valley is cheap, for a reason&#x2F;reasons.<p>The other side of the valley is both mountainous and wooded. But low density, because most of the jobs and culture are by the coast.
arcticbull5 个月前
House prices aren&#x27;t inflated.<p>House prices are high because there&#x27;s not enough supply in and around the jobs. There&#x27;s not enough supply because of zoning regulations. Zoning regulations were put in place to keep house prices as high as possible.<p>As long as there&#x27;s not enough supply to meet demand house prices will trend up towards the maximum the market can afford. When the opposite happens house prices tend towards the cost of construction.<p>Until just a few months ago over 90% of all the residential land in California was zoned single-family exclusive.
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bwhiting23565 个月前
Can we fight fires with a fleet of AI powered drones? I&#x27;ve watched water bombers [like this](<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=JrOESRoD1Jk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=JrOESRoD1Jk</a>) near my hometown. It seems like a lot of the water could be better targeted, and round trips to a body of water and back are long.
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tptacek5 个月前
The question has come up several times on the thread so far, and just to add my read to it: the claim that Los Angeles housing prices are inflated seems to rest in part on the fact that they&#x27;re about to get a lot more expensive to insure. The annual costs of ownership of a house --- taxes, insurance, and upkeep, probably in that order --- work against the market value of a house. I live in an extremely high-tax inner-ring suburb of Chicago, and the conventional wisdom is that our taxes knock double-digit percentages off our home market value.<p>Maybe the article is saying the same effect could hit markets around the country more broadly as insurers everywhere jack rates up in response to climate change?<p>As mismanagement and environmental issues unfold, in the narrative I play in my head to keep myself sane, insurers are kind of heroic. I know they aren&#x27;t really, but: one thing you can say for them, they&#x27;re some of the only players in our economy that are <i>required</i> to price externalities. Political bodies and residents can delude themselves about risks indefinitely, but an insurer that ignores them will be insolvent. You could write a state statute capping insurance rates, but, as you&#x27;ve seen, that just forces insurers to leave the market. <i>They don&#x27;t have a choice</i>. It&#x27;s kind of wonderful.
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aaroninsf5 个月前
The word required was &quot;high,&quot; not &quot;inflated.&quot;<p>Markets gonna market amiright
robofanatic4 个月前
Why do they build wooden houses in LA? Use concrete!
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smaili5 个月前
&gt; Nine of the Golden State’s 10 largest infernos since 1932 have occurred during the past decade, according to the local forestry and fire protection department.<p>With how far technology has come since 1932, I personally believe incompetence is being exposed not inflated home prices
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