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Anthropic achieves ISO 42001 certification for responsible AI

84 点作者 Olshansky4 个月前

18 条评论

kachapopopow4 个月前
Antrophic has to be the worst offender in answering genuinely harmless questions such as anything related to remote access (yes! including ssh).<p>Anything related to reverse engineering? Refused.<p>Anything outside their company values? Refused.<p>Anything that has the word proprietary in it? Refused.<p>Anything that sounds like a jailbreak, but isn&#x27;t? Refused.<p>Even asking how to find a port that you forgot in the range between 30000 and 40000 with netcat command... Refused.<p>Then there&#x27;s openai 4o that makes jokes about slaves and honestly, if the alternative is anthropic then openai can might as well tell people how to build a nuke.
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dartos4 个月前
Anyone in the know who can tell us what it specifically means to get this certification?<p>The ISO faq for it just says “responsible AI management” over and over again.
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spondyl4 个月前
Interestingly, The Journal (a podcast from the Wall Street Journal) ran an episode with Anthropic&#x27;s AI safety team just yesterday.<p>I had wondered if it was perhaps a PR push from Anthropic to make their safety people available to the press but it was probably just an adaption of an earlier WSJ written piece I wasn&#x27;t aware of.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;ai&#x2F;ai-safety-testing-red-team-anthropic-1b31b21b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;ai&#x2F;ai-safety-testing-red-team-anthr...</a>
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zonkerdonker4 个月前
This is pretty bizarre. Anyone technical enough to know or care about ISO standards is going to be able to see right through this bullshit.<p>Honestly all this does is weaken the other standards out forth by ISO, to my eyes.<p>What&#x27;s next? &quot;Disney announces it now meets ISO 26123 certification for good movies&quot;?
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drunner4 个月前
AI or LLM? If this is for LLM, then what does &quot;responsibly&quot; making up facts really mean or change?<p>I would argue LLMs are irresponsible by nature of them having no context for what is fact or fiction.
gonzan4 个月前
Am I the only one that rolled their eyes at this? An ISO for &quot;responsible AI&quot;? Who is the one that feels authorized to define what &quot;responsible&quot; AI means? This is not a standarization issue.
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photochemsyn4 个月前
In a nod to William Gibson, should ISO 42001 be renamed &quot;The Turing Registry Specification&quot;?<p>The reason this is ridiculous is I&#x27;m sure I could get it to teach me all manner of &#x27;safe&#x27; chemical reactions, even provide recipes. Like, say, preparing aspirin from willow bark. Which I happen to know is roughly the same recipe for preparing heroin from opium gum.<p>It&#x27;s nonsensical. Either you hamstring the models to the point they&#x27;re useless, or people can game them to do the unsafe thing you don&#x27;t want them to do. It&#x27;s basically just another version of the dual use problem, which goes all the way back to the peasant with his iron plow tips that might also be used to bash the lord&#x27;s head in if it came to it.
pinoy4204 个月前
Not ISO42069? Was that proposed by Musk and subsequently rejected due to conflict of interest?
idunnoman12224 个月前
And all the clowns clapped for we were finally safe again, thanks Europe!
qxfys4 个月前
Noob question: do they need to re-certify for each new model release?
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JofArnold4 个月前
Good timing given computer use was just the other day jailbroken and &quot;succeeded&quot; in ordering an assassination via the dark web.
transformi4 个月前
Don&#x27;t they need to show some proofs that their model indeed &quot;responsible&quot;? Why not everyone can get that certificate?
waltercool4 个月前
They are closed-source AI. Who cares?<p>Why would I use Claude or ChatGPT when other companies (Meta, Alibaba, Forest Labs, Stability AI) are doing the same, but also giving you access to the base model for free?<p>Being able to run offline AI, or at least being able to host that by yourself gives you lot more freedom and transparency than a stupid ISO certification created by bureaucrats to comply with their own policies.
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tossandthrow4 个月前
I have just disbandoned anthropic. I was trying to extract knowledge from some PDFs with academic papers about financial institutions. It refused because of the content filter. And the recommended solution would be chunking.<p>I simply can not be prepared to handholding a LLM like a mad toddler for doing tasks like this.
buryat4 个月前
Jan 13<p>420 01 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iso.org&#x2F;obp&#x2F;ui&#x2F;en&#x2F;#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1:en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iso.org&#x2F;obp&#x2F;ui&#x2F;en&#x2F;#iso:std:iso-iec:42001:ed-1:v1...</a><p>ISO is just another Swiss agency <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iso.org&#x2F;standard&#x2F;81230.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iso.org&#x2F;standard&#x2F;81230.html</a><p>The standard itself was created by Europeans, Anthropic itself is European, so it&#x27;s just europe trying to impose their own vision of AI on everyone else. That&#x27;s another example of thinking from perspective of the old world. The New World is busy building instead of putting regulations around the progress.<p>If you think like a citizen then it&#x27;s better to avoid sharing your data with other AI companies and only share data with US.
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tw19844 个月前
from ISO&#x27;s official web site -<p>&quot;Secretariat: ANSI (United States) Committee Manager: Ms Heather Benko Chairperson (until end 2027): Mr Wael William Diab ISO Technical Programme Manager [TPM]: Ms Jacquelyn MacCoon ISO Editorial Manager [EM]: Ms Jessica Navarria &quot;<p>well done, another US centric &quot;international standard&quot; with US rivals excluded from the very beginning. probably for national security reasons again?
nbzso4 个月前
Love or hate it, generative AI must be scrutinized for copyright infringement. And it is coming. I don&#x27;t have the slightest doubt about it.<p>The problem is not only hallucination, is mainly the data set.<p>If things are done right, there must be a technological solution for authors which work is used for training of the models to receive monetization. One of the logical ideas is of revenue sharing.<p>There is no way everything inside popular generators to be fair use.
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wincy4 个月前
Marc Andreesen said in an interview he was told to not invest in AI startups by people in government because the government was going to decide which companies were allowed to research and develop AI and nobody else. Does this certification make Anthropic one of the chosen, golden child, ordained companies?
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