Google begins requiring JavaScript for Google Search

175 点作者 ungut4 个月前

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To be fair, if my search engine is anything to go on, about 0.5-1% of the requests I get are from human sources. The rest are from bots, and not like people who haven't found I have an API, but bots that are attempting to poison Google or Bing's query suggestions (even though I'm not backed by either). From what I've heard from other people running search engines, it looks the same everywhere.I don't know what Google's ratio of human to botspam is, but given how much of a payday it would be if anyone were to succeed, I can imagine they're serving their fair number of automated requests.Requiring a headless browser to automate the traffic makes the abuse significantly more expensive.

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nilslindemann4 个月前

Just tested (ignoring AI search engines, non-english, non-free):Search engines which require JavaScript:Google, Bing, Ecosia, Yandex, Qwant, Gibiru, Presearch, Seekr, Swisscows, Yep, Openverse, Dogpile, WaldoSearch engines which do not require JavaScript:DuckDuckGo, Yahoo Search, Brave Search, Startpage, AOL Search, giveWater, Mojeek

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anArbitraryOne4 个月前

I've put off learning JavaScript for over 20 years, now I'm not going to be able to search for anything

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puttycat4 个月前

I recently discovered how great the ChatGPT web search feature is. Returns live (!) results from the web and usually finds things that Google doesn't - mostly niche searches in natural language that G simply doesn't get.Of course, it uses JavaScript, which doesn't help with the problem discussed here.But I do think that Google is internally seeing a huge drop in usage which is why they're currently running for the money. We're going to see this all across their products soon enough (I'm thinking Gmail).

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lemoncookiechip4 个月前

What I find amusing is that this is Google. It's their bots, and now LLMs as well, that have hammered people's websites for years.

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ronjouch4 个月前

Previous discussion: Google.com search now refusing to search for FF esr 128 without JavaScript (2025-01-16, 92 points), <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865</a>

at0mic224 个月前

I believe the main intent is to block SERP analysers, which track result positions by keywords. Not that it would help a lot with bot abuse, but will make regular SEO agency life harder and more expensive.Last month Google have also enstricted YouTube policies which IMHO is a sign, that they are not reaching specific milestones and that'd definitely be reflected over the alphabet stocks

zelphirkalt4 个月前

They are going to make Google search even more broken than it is already? Be my guest! Since they are an ads business, I guess they don't really care about their search any longer, or they have sniffed some potential to gather even more information on users using Google, if they require running JS for it to work. Who knows. But anyone valuing their privacy has long left anyway.

gazchop4 个月前

How else are you going to load a hideously incorrect AI summary block without your initial page latency being through the roof?

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blindriver4 个月前

Almost everyone I know has moved a lot of their searching onto ChatGPT or WhatsApp AI querying.Everyone I know under 25 has stopped using Google search altogether.I think the only people disabling JavaScript must be GenX graybeards such as myself or security experts.

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throeurir4 个月前

It does not even work with javascript enabled! Always asking for some cookies permissions, captcha, Gmail login...

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kragen4 个月前

Don't be evil.

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niutech4 个月前

Try changing the user agent string to Lynx: <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@niutech/113877781179023925" rel="nofollow">https://fosstodon.org/@niutech/113877781179023925</a>

ChrisArchitect4 个月前

Related discussion as linked in article: ("users on social media")Google.com search now refusing to search for FF esr 128 without JavaScript<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42719865</a>

EvanAnderson4 个月前

I browse with JavaScript off by default on my phone. Guess I'm going to DuckDuckGo now.

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croes4 个月前

> quality of search resultsA.k.a ads

1vuio0pswjnm74 个月前

Dupe: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42745453">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42745453</a>

jazzyjackson4 个月前

Kagi it is, then

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linker30004 个月前

Well, I read the HN headline and said to myself, I bet this requirement is pitched as "...to enhance the user experience...", and, yep, it's there.That's akin with a response to some incident where companies "Take [user security etc.] seriously", when the immediate thought is, yeah, but if you did, that [thing] probably wouldn't have happened.Dunno why I wrote all that - I don't use Google search, because I wanted to enhance (aka unenshitten) my search experience.

can16358p4 个月前

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised that if Google requires some Proof-of-work done on browser's host's CPU/GPU to validate search results and make it infeasible for bots therefore.

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KingOfCoders4 个月前

Last days of Rome.

danielktdoranie4 个月前

Yet another reason to stop supporting Google with your clicks. Remember when their moto was “Don’t be evil”?