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'Obelisks', a new class of life living inside humans

109 点作者 Ziggy_Zaggy3 个月前

12 条评论

kens3 个月前
Although the title says &quot;just discovered&quot;, obelisks were discovered a year ago. Obelisks are RNA elements inside bacteria inside humans. Here are some links for more information:<p>The publication in Cell: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cell.com&#x2F;cell&#x2F;abstract&#x2F;S0092-8674(24)01091-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cell.com&#x2F;cell&#x2F;abstract&#x2F;S0092-8674(24)01091-2</a><p>The preprint: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2024.01.20.576352v1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2024.01.20.576352v1</a><p>An article about obelisks in Science: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;it-s-insane-new-viruslike-entities-found-human-gut-microbes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;it-s-insane-new-viru...</a><p>An article in Derek Lowe&#x27;s popular &quot;In the Pipeline&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;blog-post&#x2F;what-s-obelisk-anyway" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;blog-post&#x2F;what-s-obelisk-any...</a>
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ninalanyon3 个月前
The article makes it sound as though this is something only humans have. Which struck me as very odd.<p>But the paper in Cell says:<p>&quot;• Found globally in diverse niches, obelisks also occur in human stool and oral microbiomes&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cell.com&#x2F;cell&#x2F;abstract&#x2F;S0092-8674(24)01091-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cell.com&#x2F;cell&#x2F;abstract&#x2F;S0092-8674(24)01091-2</a><p>Much more reasonable.
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yawnxyz3 个月前
This was a good thread on Obelisks: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42547489">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42547489</a>
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enkid3 个月前
If viruses usually aren&#x27;t considered alive, why would obelisk? I&#x27;m also curious how we know these are independent structures versus a by product of our own or our resident bacteria&#x27;s cellular function. The mRNA seems unrelated to our own, but perhaps there&#x27;s an unknown process that either generates new extracellular mRNA to create these protiens referenced in the article. Alternatively, could these be mRNA strands that escaped the cellular destruction process?
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pama3 个月前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2024.01.20.576352v1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2024.01.20.576352v1</a>
thebeardisred3 个月前
Does anyone else find it odd that we&#x27;re getting virus news from the former android news aggregator &quot;Boy Genius Report&quot;?
jmpman3 个月前
Midi-chlorians?
amanzi3 个月前
I had no idea the Boy Genius Report website was still around!
thrill3 个月前
Give yourself a fighting chance - eat more yoghurt.
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Ziggy_Zaggy3 个月前
&quot;...new life forms are called Obelisks...&quot;
fuzzfactor3 个月前
A never-before-seen class?<p>Seems like experts would need to consider any &quot;inheritance&quot; issues that might have been unexpected . . .
travisgriggs3 个月前
Obelisks eh? I wish this article had more on the dimensions of these little critters. Was hoping to read that they’re of 1:4:9 proportions, and thus the given name was a sort of hat tip…<p>Cue Zarathustra