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Popular Linux orgs Freedesktop and Alpine Linux are scrambling for new webhost

256 点作者 ossusermivami3 个月前

18 条评论

Shakahs3 个月前
Per the ongoing Freedesktop discussion, AWS offered to host but Freedesktop is leaning towards self-hosting on Hetzner so they can control their own destiny and sponsors can contribute cash towards the bill instead of donating hardware.<p>&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.freedesktop.org&#x2F;freedesktop&#x2F;freedesktop&#x2F;-&#x2F;issues&#x2F;2011" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gitlab.freedesktop.org&#x2F;freedesktop&#x2F;freedesktop&#x2F;-&#x2F;iss...</a>
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zx2c43 个月前
The WireGuard project is also in the same situation, due to Equinix Metal shutting down. If anybody would like to host us, please reach out to team at wireguard dot com. Thanks!
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voxadam3 个月前
Oregon State University&#x27;s Open Source Lab (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osuosl.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;osuosl.org&#x2F;</a>) offers managed and unmanaged hosting to open source projects. They even have IBM Z and POWER10 hosting if you&#x27;re into that sort of thing.
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johnklos3 个月前
Is colocation knowledge lost now? Do people no longer know how to configure a server or three, bring them to colo and run them? I don&#x27;t understand how this is a story worthy of an Ars Technica article. Where&#x27;s the issue?<p>If the issue is cost, slightly older Epyc hardware is quite affordable, and colo deals can be found for extremely reasonable costs. If it&#x27;s expertise, then all they have to do is ask.
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jmclnx3 个月前
RHEL (IBM) is doing well, why can&#x27;t they provide free hosting and at the same time show off their cloud products ?<p>RHEL benefits from freedesktop and X, and as a show of good faith they could support Alpine too.<p>But as we all know, RHEL&#x2F;IBM only wants to take free labor and not really give back these days :(
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mrbluecoat3 个月前
Awesome projects and I hope they find a new home soon! For those wanting to donate:<p>Alpine Linux: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opencollective.com&#x2F;alpinelinux" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;opencollective.com&#x2F;alpinelinux</a><p>Freedesktop [edit]: ..no crowdsource option at the moment
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systems_glitch3 个月前
Oh man that sucks! I wonder if we could pull Alpine into our colo, we recently upgraded to a full rack from 2U (it was cheaper than a quarter rack!) and have a ton of space. Plus all of our libvirt&#x2F;KVM HVMs run Alpine.
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dehrmann3 个月前
Broader question, but whatever happened to every university with a CS department hosting mirrors of popular distros? I always assumed CDNs replaced them, but seeing this, maybe they didn&#x27;t.
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jtrn3 个月前
I haven&#x27;t looked into it, so there might be a good reason, but why isn&#x27;t peer-to-peer technology utilized more and more for stuff like this? I had hoped that BitTorrent would have made these things a solved problem. I looked into Storj earlier, but it seemed too controlled&#x2F;unpredictable&#x2F;centralized. Anybody have some good insights into this?
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reincoder3 个月前
When it comes to mirror sponsorships, we (IPinfo) offer IP location data sponsorship. We spoke with Alma Linux and they used our IP location data to route traffic for their mirror system: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;almalinux.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2024-08-07-mirrors-1-to-400&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;almalinux.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2024-08-07-mirrors-1-to-400&#x2F;</a><p>At the moment, we operate 900 servers. We evaluated the idea of hosting mirrors on some of our servers, but our servers are not super powerful, and we have to pay for bandwidth. We use these servers in our production pipeline. Maintenance alone is a massive task, and hosting distro mirrors could be incredibly challenging. We are not at that scale yet.<p>We could provide IP location data sponsorship to popular distro mirror systems, which would make traffic routing and load distributions more effective.
mobilio3 个月前
It looks as a job for Cloudflare: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudflaremirrors.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloudflaremirrors.com&#x2F;</a><p>But i don&#x27;t know who is responsible for that.
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electricant3 个月前
Not only alpine linux but also X.Org and freedesktop.org
1970-01-013 个月前
&gt;Both services have largely depended on free server resources ...<p>Running on &#x27;large donations&#x27; is not a viable strategy for any long-term goal. Perhaps its time for Linux to consider running a tiny datacenter of its very own to both dog-feed itself and give itself extra momentum or inertia from donation stall-out?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eating_your_own_dog_food" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eating_your_own_dog_food</a>
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loganmarchione3 个月前
So far, the Equinix Metal shutdown affects Freedesktop, Alpine, WireGuard, and Flathub. Why can&#x27;t these organizations use VMs? Is there something special about bare-metal services, or has Equinix not offered their VM service to these organizations?
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0xbadcafebee3 个月前
Old-school open source projects got hosting from hundreds of mirrors, mostly universities and ISPs, and some businesses. If you have lots of mirrors you don&#x27;t need as much traffic per host.
HackerThemAll3 个月前
All the big cloud behemoths benefit A LOT from Alpine. And helping Alpine would be pennies for them.
supriyo-biswas3 个月前
Isn’t fly.io all hosted on Equinix Metal too? Or are they using their collocation services?
FuriouslyAdrift3 个月前
Why is this stuff not primarily hosted via bittorrent, now?<p>Even Microsoft updates can use end user device distributed hosting.
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