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Spanish 'running of the bulls' festival reveals crowd movements can be predicted

117 点作者 gmays3 个月前

10 条评论

bad_haircut723 个月前
I predict the crowd runs away from the rampaging bulls
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psychoslave3 个月前
So, that&#x27;s all very interesting. Do we also have some studies on how to avoid gathering people in such z dense level that all possibilities of that kind of dramatic outcome can occurs.<p>Also note that not all crowds are the same. I went to some metal concerts where the moves would exhibits very different moves, including less packed and steal, split in in very highly packed borders before an abrupt run and merge, as well as creating protection circle around someone who falls on the ground. I actually didn&#x27;t witnessed any major crowd incident in such a concert, so I would be interested to have statistics about outcomes of a crowd panic in a metal concert vs in a cinema for example.
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mettamage3 个月前
That video is really illuminating in the article. I&#x27;ve experienced it once at the entrance of a concert. If you have all kinds of forces acting on you, then you don&#x27;t have much autonomy on how you move.<p>Would this to some extent be how actual fluid (e.g. water) move as well? I thought atoms just freely flowed around in there from one side of the liquid to the other side.
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jumploops3 个月前
Something something psychohistory
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egberts13 个月前
Like what I witnessed with ants in my childhood ant farms.<p>Ant farm is the kind where dirt&#x2F;sand is poured in between two glass panes and you watch them build tunnels and watch the ants interact with various things you drop inside it).
alwa3 个月前
See also the submission of the paper itself<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42987646">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=42987646</a><p>(6 days ago, 92 points, 41 comments)
talideon3 个月前
Isn&#x27;t this what Navier-Stokes is for, or am I misunderstanding things? Does this improve on it in some way not clear from the article?
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staplung3 个月前
I feel like the headline is seriously misleading. The TL;DR is basically &quot;the authors observed pockets of several hundred people spontaneously behaving like one fluid that oscillated&quot; over an 18 second period. That hardly seems to amount to &quot;predicting crowd movements&quot; in any meaningful sense.
eleveriven3 个月前
It&#x27;d be interesting to see how this research could be used in real-time to guide emergency response teams or adjust crowd flow during large-scale events
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submeta3 个月前
Isn‘t this old news? There is research that says that if x percent of a group moves in one direction, the rest will predictably follow. Swarm study reveals this. And this can be observerd in human crowds as well.<p>I was wondering if Crypto whales use this insight to create FOMO and make them buy shitcoins in their pump and dump schemes.
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