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Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

229 点作者 lnauta3 个月前

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thamer3 个月前
It took a few tries, but I got Wolfram Alpha to compute its velocity compared to the speed of light[1].<p>I started with:<p><pre><code> sqrt(1-((1&#x2F;(1+120 PeV &#x2F; (neutrino mass * c^2)))^2)) </code></pre> but it simply said &quot;data not available&quot;. So I changed:<p><pre><code> 120 PeV to 120e15 * 1.602176634e-19 kg m^2 s^-2 neutrino mass to 1.25e-37kg speed of light to 299792458 m&#x2F;s </code></pre> and finally it gave a numeric result:<p><pre><code> 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999829277971 </code></pre> (that&#x27;s 36 nines in a row). Pasting it in Google says the value is &quot;1&quot;, which is… not far off.<p>If you want details about the way this is calculated, I dug up the formula from an article I&#x27;d written about particle velocities in the LHC, back in 2008[2]. For comparison, their 7 TeV protons were going at 0.999999991 × c.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wolframalpha.com&#x2F;input?i=sqrt%281-%28%281%2F%281%2B%28120e15*1.602176634e-19+kg+m%5E2+s%5E-2%29+%2F+%281.25e-37kg++*+%28299792458+m%2Fs%29%5E2%29%29%29%5E2%29%29" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wolframalpha.com&#x2F;input?i=sqrt%281-%28%281%2F%281...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;log.kv.io&#x2F;post&#x2F;2008&#x2F;09&#x2F;12&#x2F;lhc-how-fast-do-these-protons-go" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;log.kv.io&#x2F;post&#x2F;2008&#x2F;09&#x2F;12&#x2F;lhc-how-fast-do-these-prot...</a>
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ziddoap3 个月前
Ars Technica has an article, as well, with some additional context&#x2F;explanation.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;most-energetic-neutrino-yet-seen-smashes-through-seafloor-detector&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;most-energetic-neutr...</a><p>And an interesting, somewhat related, video from PBS Space Time exploring how supernovas act as particle accelerators (but don&#x27;t quite explain particles like this one or the &#x27;Oh My God&#x27; particle):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=2sSNWIJbV3Q" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=2sSNWIJbV3Q</a>
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cylinder7143 个月前
The article references the &quot;Oh-My-God particle, the most energetic particle yet encountered. Here&#x27;s the late John Walker&#x27;s excellent piece on that:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fourmilab.ch&#x2F;documents&#x2F;OhMyGodParticle&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fourmilab.ch&#x2F;documents&#x2F;OhMyGodParticle&#x2F;</a>
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jihadjihad3 个月前
The Nature paper itself can be found here [0], for those curious. Was just published today.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-024-08543-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-024-08543-1</a>
antognini3 个月前
For context, 120 PeV is about 10% the kinetic energy of a ping pong ball during typical play.
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ziofill3 个月前
It&#x27;s mentioned in the article that the highest energy ever recorded for a single particle was 320,000 PeV which is about 50 joules, i.e. the energy of a golf ball at 100 mph @_@
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insane_dreamer3 个月前
also reported in the NYT: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;12&#x2F;science&#x2F;astrophysics-universe-neutrinos.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2025&#x2F;02&#x2F;12&#x2F;science&#x2F;astrophysics-univ...</a>
dooglius3 个月前
It looks like they detected a muon and are inferring a neutrino from the fact it went through a lot of solid. Couldn&#x27;t it be any other weakly-interacting particle though?
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pfdietz3 个月前
If I understand correctly, the interaction length of such an energetic neutrino in rock is only in the tens of kilometers.
neals3 个月前
Anybody here able to tell me what it means? Where do neutrinos get their energy from? Is there a limit? Will this make my phone smaller? My microwave quicker?
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bookofjoe3 个月前
&gt;Observation of an ultra-high-energy cosmic neutrino with KM3NeT<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-024-08543-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;s41586-024-08543-1</a>
ge963 个月前
What&#x27;s faster than satellite communication? Neutrinos baby<p>Not even sure if that&#x27;s worth doing, either create&#x2F;emit or use encode data into them as they fly by to be received by someone else<p>Edit: that&#x27;s cool people have tried though
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octocop3 个月前
Why do they place the receiver in a large body of water, like the Mediterranean?
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yapyap3 个月前
bit of a redundant title